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> The update was not forced. You got the choice to install it or not. Some choice: > However, without updating, console owners couldn't connect to the PlaySta

by peeters 10y ago

> The update was not forced. You got the choice to install it or not. Some choice: > However, without updating, console owners couldn't connect to the PlayStation Network, play any games online, play any games or Blu-ray movies that required the new firmware, play any files kept on a media server, or download any future updates. If you buy a product on a claim that it performs N features, and a future update forces you to choose which subset of N features you would like to keep, the company has still failed on their claim.

slavik81 10y ago
Those things also all happen when a platform is no longer supported. So, if Sony wanted to shut down their games division tomorrow, how many new games would you require they release for the PS4 and how long should they be required to keep running their servers? While I think there's an argument for being required to allow online access to those within warranty, it makes way more sense to just guarantee it plays the games it played when you got it. It's something that consumers could easily understand and depend on.
- peeters 10y ago
  > Those things also all happen when a platform is no longer supported. That's not a given. Some of the features require no ongoing support, like playing media from a local server. > So, if Sony wanted to shut down their games division tomorrow (...) how long should they be required to keep running their servers? Leave the concrete numbers to the judges and juries. But if today I bought a $700 console from an authorized dealer, and tomorrow it was a brick, I'm pretty sure I'd have a case for getting a big chunk of that money back. If in a year it was mostly a brick, I'd expect less money back. Exact numbers in these cases come down to negotiation. All this is tangential of course because Sony didn't stop supporting the platform.

by peeters 10y ago

slavik81 10y ago

Those things also all happen when a platform is no longer supported. So, if Sony wanted to shut down their games division tomorrow, how many new games would you require they release for the PS4 and how long should they be required to keep running their servers? While I think there's an argument for being required to allow online access to those within warranty, it makes way more sense to just guarantee it plays the games it played when you got it. It's something that consumers could easily understand and depend on.

peeters 10y ago
> Those things also all happen when a platform is no longer supported. That's not a given. Some of the features require no ongoing support, like playing media from a local server. > So, if Sony wanted to shut down their games division tomorrow (...) how long should they be required to keep running their servers? Leave the concrete numbers to the judges and juries. But if today I bought a $700 console from an authorized dealer, and tomorrow it was a brick, I'm pretty sure I'd have a case for getting a big chunk of that money back. If in a year it was mostly a brick, I'd expect less money back. Exact numbers in these cases come down to negotiation. All this is tangential of course because Sony didn't stop supporting the platform.