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As an aside: I'm really hoping as drones become mainstream people will be made aware of their right to privacy and where they have it. I spend a fair amount o

As an aside: I'm really hoping as drones become mainstream people will be made aware of their right to privacy and where they have it. I spend a fair amount of time watching clips of ignorant people attacking cameramen and drone operators in public. This irks me. Like somehow you can claim this public space because you're in it? Every kid should be enrolled in a Civics class.

bsder 10y ago
> This irks me. Like somehow you can claim this public space because you're in it? Every kid should be enrolled in a Civics class. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is socially acceptable. Drones are normally really loud and annoying. In addition, the sound tends to radiate because it's above the things that would absorb the sound. If I'm out to enjoy some quiet on a trail, and I've got a gaggle of "Drunk Go-Pro Drone Bros", I'm going to be upset, and I'm going to have words with them (been there, done that). The threat of a physical altercation is a good check on people who don't seem to get that, yes, you are causing problems for other people.
- slm_HN 10y ago
  >The threat of a physical altercation is a good check on people who don't seem to get that, yes, you are causing problems for other people. Charming. Let's all try to solve problems by being kindergarten bullies. This is what happens when you raise a generation of kids with nothing but the WWF for role models.
  - bsder 10y ago
    > This is what happens when you raise a generation of kids with nothing but the WWF for role models. And the reason why we have regressed to needing to threaten someone physically is because an entire generation has been raised to believe that they are "special little flowers" who don't have to pay attention to the fact that what they do has an impact on other people. While, yes, it is technically illegal to shoot a drone out of the sky over your own property, there is a reason why nobody has been willing to push the point in court.
    - coroutines 10y ago
      Are you one of those 'special little flowers' ignoring the impact you might have on others? - the physical impact that follows threatening violence? Seriously wtf.
- coroutines 10y ago
  My point was that often drone operators are taking landscape shots of scenery which just happen to include people. Why does this person with the untenable expectation of privacy get to claim the recording rights to the scenery that belongs to everyone? How can they assert their right to privacy over the public landscape? It's infuriating. Believe me if I could avoid the people I and my friends would. It's impractical to ask everyone on the beach if it's okay to film them and I wouldn't have to if I were walking the beach with a handheld camera. Drones just make some people feel like they are personally being followed - and that's entirely their hangup (not mine). Take issue with the surveillance your local government asserts over its citizens with license plate scanners and red light cameras before you go threatening drone operators. Anyway - people who attack cameramen very often say "What you're doing is illegal - I didn't give you permission to record me." - not, "Please don't record me, I would appreciate not appearing in your video." There's a HUGE difference here. They have every right to record you in public view, and you can ask nicely to avoid being caught in their view. This does NOT include threatening violence. What gets me is you only care about the 1 camera out of hundreds because there's a person behind it you can immediately see. You are exactly the type of person who needs Civics. Side note: If drones become a problem for hikers I expect to see certain areas like state parks adopt rules about drone usage to curb bad behavior. Hopefully such bans on drone operation will be carefully enacted, as drones have done a LOT to enable new perspectives on tired landscapes.

bsder 10y ago

> This irks me. Like somehow you can claim this public space because you're in it? Every kid should be enrolled in a Civics class. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is socially acceptable. Drones are normally really loud and annoying. In addition, the sound tends to radiate because it's above the things that would absorb the sound. If I'm out to enjoy some quiet on a trail, and I've got a gaggle of "Drunk Go-Pro Drone Bros", I'm going to be upset, and I'm going to have words with them (been there, done that). The threat of a physical altercation is a good check on people who don't seem to get that, yes, you are causing problems for other people.

slm_HN 10y ago
>The threat of a physical altercation is a good check on people who don't seem to get that, yes, you are causing problems for other people. Charming. Let's all try to solve problems by being kindergarten bullies. This is what happens when you raise a generation of kids with nothing but the WWF for role models.
- bsder 10y ago
  > This is what happens when you raise a generation of kids with nothing but the WWF for role models. And the reason why we have regressed to needing to threaten someone physically is because an entire generation has been raised to believe that they are "special little flowers" who don't have to pay attention to the fact that what they do has an impact on other people. While, yes, it is technically illegal to shoot a drone out of the sky over your own property, there is a reason why nobody has been willing to push the point in court.
  - coroutines 10y ago
    Are you one of those 'special little flowers' ignoring the impact you might have on others? - the physical impact that follows threatening violence? Seriously wtf.
coroutines 10y ago
My point was that often drone operators are taking landscape shots of scenery which just happen to include people. Why does this person with the untenable expectation of privacy get to claim the recording rights to the scenery that belongs to everyone? How can they assert their right to privacy over the public landscape? It's infuriating. Believe me if I could avoid the people I and my friends would. It's impractical to ask everyone on the beach if it's okay to film them and I wouldn't have to if I were walking the beach with a handheld camera. Drones just make some people feel like they are personally being followed - and that's entirely their hangup (not mine). Take issue with the surveillance your local government asserts over its citizens with license plate scanners and red light cameras before you go threatening drone operators. Anyway - people who attack cameramen very often say "What you're doing is illegal - I didn't give you permission to record me." - not, "Please don't record me, I would appreciate not appearing in your video." There's a HUGE difference here. They have every right to record you in public view, and you can ask nicely to avoid being caught in their view. This does NOT include threatening violence. What gets me is you only care about the 1 camera out of hundreds because there's a person behind it you can immediately see. You are exactly the type of person who needs Civics. Side note: If drones become a problem for hikers I expect to see certain areas like state parks adopt rules about drone usage to curb bad behavior. Hopefully such bans on drone operation will be carefully enacted, as drones have done a LOT to enable new perspectives on tired landscapes.