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Ground chuck roast is heavily subsidized; it would be surprising if any fake meat product could actually rival the energy and water costs needed to raise and pr
by blacksmith_tb 10y ago
Ground chuck roast is heavily subsidized; it would be surprising if any fake meat product could actually rival the energy and water costs needed to raise and process beef. So one solution would be to price both more fairly, in which case lots of consumers might be happier to choose the vegan option.
- jonknee 10y agoHow exactly is ground chuck roast heavily subsidized? Is it any different than the subsidies for agriculture that make up meat alternatives?
- blacksmith_tb 10y agoThey are both subsidized, clearly - but since it takes 8lbs / 3.6kg of grain to produce 1lb / 0.45kg of beef [1], and the livestock then receive additional subsidies [2], the effect is magnified. 1: https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?article_id=29892 https://alumni.stanford.edu/get/page/magazine/article/?artic... 2: https://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=livestock https://farm.ewg.org/progdetail.php?fips=00000&progcode=live...
- jonknee 10y agoIf it takes more agriculture product to produce meat, the plain plant version should then be cheaper.
- kilotaras 10y agocost of meat/plant version = real cost of producing - subsidies Since subsidies in meat version are bigger, end result can be cheaper despite having higher "real" cost.
- rahimnathwani 10y agoOnly if you assume that the only costs/inputs are the grain. There maybe other manufacturing costs, which do not receive any subsidy.
- dragonwriter 10y ago> Ground chuck roast is heavily subsidized; it would be surprising if any fake meat product could actually rival the energy and water costs needed to raise and process beef. Substitutes have much lower growing costs in energy and water, but so far also much higher processing costs. Not too surprised that these might end up offsetting each other. If you want plants to be efficient food sources, the best approach is not to try to make them imitate meat. Making them imitate meat is an inefficient use of plants.