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If they can do it close to zero carbohydrates per serving, I'm in. If they can't, it's just another over-processed frankenfood greasing the slicks to a diabeti
by alrs 10y ago
If they can do it close to zero carbohydrates per serving, I'm in.
If they can't, it's just another over-processed frankenfood greasing the slicks to a diabetic future.
- collyw 10y agoIs there any proper (peer reviewed) evidence that carbohydrates are bad?
- ethanbond 10y agoCarbohydrates in excessive amounts, yes. Meats and cheeses are basically the last bastions of non carb-laden foods. Pretty much everything that's not "diet" or meat/cheese is jam packed with carbs for flavor/cost cutting/fat reduction. And there's plenty of evidence that this is a bad thing.
- jrockway 10y agoPlenty of low-carb things that aren't meat and cheese. Avocados, nuts, etc.
- X86BSD 10y agoIve been an atkins follower for... 20 years. I eat mostly meat. The few things I indulge in other than meat are mama lupe low carb tortillas, blue diamond almonds almost all flavors, and some veg like cauliflower because its LC. And cheese. I am a cheese addict. :/ Other than that I don't touch anything from a grocery store. I do make paneer cheese and butter from raw milk I get from a sweet lady that has a small farm 30 minutes from here. Love paneer! And let me tell you if you have NEVER had butter made from RAW MILK by hand your missing out. That garbage in the store called "butter" will seriously make you rethink what the EFF you are eating if you taste raw milk butter you make yourself. It's not a subtle "eh I can kind of tell the difference." Its more of a "HOLY SH!@# What the @#!$ have I been eating?!?!" moment.
- jerf 10y agoThere's plenty of vegetables that aren't loaded with starch, especially the really bad sorts of starch. In fact I can only name a few that are that bad for you. Russet potatos, mostly. There are a lot of pretty sugary fruits, even after you account for fiber.
- saynsedit 10y agoProbably good to stay away from processed food in general, and worry about carbs second. Fruits and vegetables will take you far. If it doesn't taste good to you, put some salt on it.
- cbd1984 10y ago> Carbohydrates in excessive amounts, yes. That's the definition of 'excessive', yes.
- ethanbond 10y agoRight, and that's why someone might be interested in not shifting to fake meats that have carbohydrates.
- collyw 10y agoYes, everything is bad if taken excessively. I am asking is there any evidence that "normal" levels of carbs are especially bad?
- lsaferite 10y agoNormal today or normal 200 years ago? Eating non-processed food is difficult for a large segment of the population of the US and many other parts of the world. Processed foods have drastically change our nutritional intake balances of the years. So 'normal' is something that should be defined.
- collyw 10y agoSure, but I am asking if thee is anything specific about carbohydrates that should be avoided (unprocessed or otherwise). Lots of people replying, no one answering my question.
- ethanbond 10y agoNo, just like there is nothing wrong with lead in safe amounts. It's a tautology and you're trying to remove your question from the context of the reality in which the statement was made.
- XorNot 10y agoThere are no safe levels of lead. Quite literally no one has ever found a lower bound on its toxicity.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoAbsolutely not! There is no safe amount of lead!
- mordocai 10y agoSugar specifically is showing signs of being incredibly bad for you and yet is added to most of the "diet foods" instead of fat (which is showing signs of being less bad for you then people say). I don't have the studies handy, and you can find studies that say either way.
- collyw 10y agoBut carbohydrates as a whole? I think it was on here I read an article by a doctor who's general rule was keep your food as unprocessed as possible.
- mordocai 10y agoI haven't seen any evidence of carbs in general being evil no. Just lots of the common sources of them in our modern diets.
- chris_7 10y agoEven if carbohydrates aren't bad, I prefer foods that are low in them when possible because other foods have disproportionate amounts. Eating a low-carb protein allows you to eat a cookie later and still hit your macro targets.
- ethanbond 10y agoOr perhaps one important part of a strategy to steer us away from environmental doom all but guaranteed by our current meat consumption? I agree on the carbohydrate thing (longtime keto-er), but the importance of these innovations is impossible to overstate.