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That is my initial reaction as well, but there isn't exactly a lot of evidence out there to definitively prove that they are bad for you. We are also condition

That is my initial reaction as well, but there isn't exactly a lot of evidence out there to definitively prove that they are bad for you. We are also conditioned to accept massive doses of vitamins and minerals by the supplement market, to the point where 2000% B6 doesn't sound like it's a big deal. When you also consider personal variability in absorption rates, dose timing, and concurrent food intake, it's even harder to control for all the confounding variables when poor health manifests in an energy-drink consumer.

Symbiote 10y ago
Where would you get a 2000% dose of B6? I have a typical multivitamin pack, sold in Denmark, which provides 100% of B6. Are things different in the States?
- smt88 10y ago
  Percent dosages vary a lot. I had a B-complex pack once that had as low as 20% of a daily dose of one compound and 2,000% of another.
- coldpie 10y ago
  The supplement industry in the US is completely unregulated and very predatory.
- facetube 10y ago
  Yes. For a while, you could buy beta-phenyl-GABA in a mass-market grocery store here, right off the shelf. It sounds relatively harmless, but beta-phenyl-GABA is a flat-out synthetic GABA-B agonist [1] developed in Russia in the 1960s. It works similarly to the prescription drug Baclofen. It can cause physical dependence, and has a potentially-life-threatening withdrawal syndrome similar to that of alcohol or benzodiazepines. When it comes to things labelled as "dietary supplements" in the US, the FDA is more-or-less asleep at the wheel IMO. [1] Edit: I'm wrong, it's apparently a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentinoid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentinoid like gabapentin and the DEA Schedule V drug pregabalin.
- TFortunato 10y ago
  The original story mentioned drinking 5-hour energy drinks, or their generic equivalent. Take a look at the nutrition label. 2000% B6 and over 8000% B12! http://www.energytin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ingredients_5_hour_extrastrength-199x300.gif http://www.energytin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ing...
- serg_chernata 10y ago
  Maybe not as high as 2000% but it is very common to see daily multi-vitamins contain doses well above 100% for individual vitamins. The explanation I've seen before stated that these vitamins are water soluble as opposed to fat soluble. You pee so much of them out that these vitamin manufacturers up the amount for better retention. I still fail to see why I would force more into my body than it wants to naturally accept.

Symbiote 10y ago

Where would you get a 2000% dose of B6? I have a typical multivitamin pack, sold in Denmark, which provides 100% of B6. Are things different in the States?

smt88 10y ago
Percent dosages vary a lot. I had a B-complex pack once that had as low as 20% of a daily dose of one compound and 2,000% of another.
coldpie 10y ago
The supplement industry in the US is completely unregulated and very predatory.
facetube 10y ago
Yes. For a while, you could buy beta-phenyl-GABA in a mass-market grocery store here, right off the shelf. It sounds relatively harmless, but beta-phenyl-GABA is a flat-out synthetic GABA-B agonist [1] developed in Russia in the 1960s. It works similarly to the prescription drug Baclofen. It can cause physical dependence, and has a potentially-life-threatening withdrawal syndrome similar to that of alcohol or benzodiazepines. When it comes to things labelled as "dietary supplements" in the US, the FDA is more-or-less asleep at the wheel IMO. [1] Edit: I'm wrong, it's apparently a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentinoid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabapentinoid like gabapentin and the DEA Schedule V drug pregabalin.
TFortunato 10y ago
The original story mentioned drinking 5-hour energy drinks, or their generic equivalent. Take a look at the nutrition label. 2000% B6 and over 8000% B12! http://www.energytin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ingredients_5_hour_extrastrength-199x300.gif http://www.energytin.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/ing...
serg_chernata 10y ago
Maybe not as high as 2000% but it is very common to see daily multi-vitamins contain doses well above 100% for individual vitamins. The explanation I've seen before stated that these vitamins are water soluble as opposed to fat soluble. You pee so much of them out that these vitamin manufacturers up the amount for better retention. I still fail to see why I would force more into my body than it wants to naturally accept.