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I certainly would. There's a major difference between someone making some offensive comments (even repeatedly) and someone committing violent crime.

tobltobs 10y ago
So you are fine with his other behaviour?
- ultramancool 10y ago
  Absolutely not, but there's a world of difference still.
  - rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
    I get what you're saying... but back when I worked at a grocery store and called out a lazy stoner I worked with for being exceptionally slow and inefficient, he waited until I was alone in the stock room and held a knife to me and said if I ever did anything like that again, he would cut me. There was no physical harm, but I was shaken enough to quit on the spot when the manager told me he would not be fired. Here's why the difference gap is smaller than you think: I can never be un-scared from that event.
    - patrickg_zill 10y ago
      That absolutely would be classed as a physical assault, not a psychological one, however, as I understand the law.
samastur 10y ago
I would not describe his acts as "some offensive comments". The reason why I don't see much of a difference is because I don't find the difference between psychological and physical violence that important when effect is similar and to me it seems to be.
- ultramancool 10y ago
  > I don't find the difference between psychological and physical violence that important when effect is similar There's good reason why these crimes are differentiated in the laws of every country around. The effects are not remotely comparable and to suggest that they are is quite offensive to victims of real violence.
  - samastur 10y ago
    I disagree. They are differentiated because we did not understand the immediate and long term effects of both and it is difficult to change cultural norms. As someone who has worked with victims of long term harassment (of both sexes) and have therefore seen up close such effects, I find offensive your implicit statement that psychological violence is somehow not real violence.
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tobltobs 10y ago

So you are fine with his other behaviour?

ultramancool 10y ago
Absolutely not, but there's a world of difference still.
- rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
  I get what you're saying... but back when I worked at a grocery store and called out a lazy stoner I worked with for being exceptionally slow and inefficient, he waited until I was alone in the stock room and held a knife to me and said if I ever did anything like that again, he would cut me. There was no physical harm, but I was shaken enough to quit on the spot when the manager told me he would not be fired. Here's why the difference gap is smaller than you think: I can never be un-scared from that event.
  - patrickg_zill 10y ago
    That absolutely would be classed as a physical assault, not a psychological one, however, as I understand the law.

samastur 10y ago

I would not describe his acts as "some offensive comments". The reason why I don't see much of a difference is because I don't find the difference between psychological and physical violence that important when effect is similar and to me it seems to be.

ultramancool 10y ago
> I don't find the difference between psychological and physical violence that important when effect is similar There's good reason why these crimes are differentiated in the laws of every country around. The effects are not remotely comparable and to suggest that they are is quite offensive to victims of real violence.
- samastur 10y ago
  I disagree. They are differentiated because we did not understand the immediate and long term effects of both and it is difficult to change cultural norms. As someone who has worked with victims of long term harassment (of both sexes) and have therefore seen up close such effects, I find offensive your implicit statement that psychological violence is somehow not real violence.
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