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Apparently the other filesharing companies spy on user data,that is why they are on Paypal.
by howfun 10y ago
Apparently the other filesharing companies spy on user data,that is why they are on Paypal.
- RachelF 10y agoI wonder. It is a bit worrying that DropBox accepts PayPal.
- draugadrotten 10y agoDropbox has been known to search users' data for files matching md5 sums someone claims they own, such as movies or known illegal photos. http://www.extremetech.com/computing/179495-how-dropbox-knows-youre-a-dirty-pirate-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-cloud-storage-to-share-copyrighted-files http://www.extremetech.com/computing/179495-how-dropbox-know...
- chipperyman573 10y agoYeah, but checking a md5 on a "list of pirated movies" database is a lot different than sending data about file uploads to a random company with no promise of what they will do with it.
- malinens 10y agoThere should be a feature in torrent clients which add some random bytes to videos when downloading them without braking the video itself so md5 checks would be useless for illegal content downloads
- mattmanser 10y agoThat would making seeding it impossible though as you wouldn't be able to verify the chunk is what you claim it is and eventually lead to the whole video being corrupt.
- RubyPinch 10y agoas long as the torrent client knows how to reverse the changes it made to the file (why wouldn't it?) then there won't be any problem. Its just a really really simple form of "encryption", which most torrent clients do support
- wallmani 10y agoIf it's reversible like that it is still possible for PayPal and others to implement it too.
- RubyPinch 10y agoIts encryption, you apply a transform before putting it onto the dropbox, and then you apply a transform after you pull it back, and the key it'd be encrypted against would be per user (like most encryption)
- heartsucker 10y agoAnd then DropBox runs that on every file, so you you have the normal md5 and the torrent-obfuscation-reversed md5. They check both. We have now achieved nothing.
- Morgawr 10y agoWhat about having a client-side only "corruption" function that is unique for each client? The file is visually the same, the md5 hash is different but when the torrent client is sending the data it just "uncorrupts" the file. When the file is received by another client, that one person's client will take care of uniquely corrupting their own version for storage.
- niij 10y agoThis is not possible. The torrent protocol works by checking the hash of each file that it downloads so it can reseed the file. If these files were changed by even 1 bit then they couldn't be reseeded back into the torrent network.
- rplnt 10y agoAren't the files matched by checksums though? I.e. you have a checksum and that's how tracker knows what you want?
- friendzis 10y agoI guess GP meant that torrent client could e.g. pad a file on disk (safest option) and store that metadata along with original hash. Hashes would not change over the torrent network, but would be different in other networks
- VMG 10y agoThey'd use some other method of fingerprinting then. It'd be an interesting arms race.
- rmc 10y agoDropbox is a US based company, is not bound by EU data protection law, the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the EU (basically the EU's Bill of Rights), and additionally the US Constitutional ban on warrentless searches does not apply to EU citizens in EU.
- igk 10y agoMax Schrems would like to have a few words about that.
- DrJokepu 10y agoEU Dropbox customers are the customers of Dropbox Ireland Limited (a company registered in Ireland), not Dropbox, Inc., a company registered in Delaware, so actually all of the EU regulations apply to their EU customers. Source: I'm a paying Dropbox customer living in the UK and my invoices are issued by Dropbox Ireland Limited.
- duhast 10y agoBut where is your data stored?
- DrJokepu 10y agohttps://www.dropbox.com/privacy https://www.dropbox.com/privacy Where Around the world. To provide you with the Services, we may store, process and transmit information in the United States and locations around the world - including those outside your country. Information may also be stored locally on the devices you use to access the Services. Safe Harbor. Dropbox complies with the EU-U.S. and Swiss-U.S. Safe Harbor ("Safe Harbor") frameworks and principles. We have certified our compliance, and you can view our certifications here. You can learn more about Safe Harbor by visiting http://export.gov/safeharbor http://export.gov/safeharbor. JAMS is the independent organization responsible for reviewing and resolving complaints about our Safe Harbor compliance. We ask that you first submit any such complaints directly to us via privacy@dropbox.com. If you aren't satisfied with our response, please contact JAMS at http://www.jamsinternational.com/rules-procedures/safeharbor/file-safe-harbor-claim http://www.jamsinternational.com/rules-procedures/safeharbor.... NOTE: When transferring data from the European Union, the European Economic Area, and Switzerland, Dropbox relies upon a variety of legal mechanisms, including contracts with our users. Dropbox doesn’t rely upon Safe Harbor as a legal basis for data transfer but does adhere to the Safe Harbor Privacy Principles while specific guidance for the forthcoming EU-US Privacy Shield program is developed. For information about data transfers from Europe to the United States, please visit this page.
- mtgx 10y agoNow you're worried about it? You should've started doing that when they accepted Condoleezza Rice on their board.