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you are totally right. My big gripe is that humans on the whole could give a fuck. What I do ask though is... what makes you think human diet at scale requires

• vacri 10y ago
  I'm not trying to get anyone to change their diet, just point out that animals die in agriculture even when meat is not on the plate. You will still minimise animal harm by engaging in a vegan diet, if that's your moral choice, just not eliminate it. I think the vegan side of the argument loses sight of what primary producers see when they don't acknowledge that animals are killed as a byproduct of agriculture. To a farmer, killing animals in the form of vermin is a part of the job, so it becomes more difficult to see much difference between a mouse and a cow. My personal preference would be for the discussion to be about harm minimisation rather than harm elimination, but I don't really have a strong part in this debate. > what makes you think human diet at scale requires by its very nature, a non vegan diet? I didn't mean a non-vegan diet, I meant that even with a pure vegan diet for everyone in the world, we would still need industrialised agriculture to support that, and that means killing vermin at scale. It would kill fewer animals, but it would still be industrial-scale slaughter.
  • codezero 10y ago
    You should join wygager and I for coffee/beer or what ever :) Shoot me an email. I'd love to chat in person.