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Very good points in the talk, but is there really a way to fight this incivility? We tried to talk to the people involved, but it didn't really work: these old-

Very good points in the talk, but is there really a way to fight this incivility? We tried to talk to the people involved, but it didn't really work: these old-timers are pretty efficient at smooth talk and making people believe they mean well for the company. But if you have 1:1 with almost any engineer, they tell you they are burned out and demoralized because of that widespread toxicity.

bootload 10y ago
"is there really a way to fight this incivility?" In RL? I dunno. I say this because the dynamics b/w employer and employee isn't equal. When I choose to work with ppl, the no-arsehole rule applies. This type of situation you describe is probably #1 problem pg describes in non-technical problems that destroy startups. What I do know is defusing situations is important. You cannot reason with ppl who are aggravated. I suspect reasoning isn't on your perps minds. This (overt attention seeking, interrupting) could be seen as a tactic to garner resources.