5 ms·
You just quoted the reporter, not Trump! This was the same tactic used to claim that Trump said we should have all Muslims wear a mark in the U.S. A reported sa
by ethanhunt_ 10y ago
You just quoted the reporter, not Trump! This was the same tactic used to claim that Trump said we should have all Muslims wear a mark in the U.S. A reported said that, then people said that Trump said it.
- mej10 10y agoTrump: Jake, if he was giving me fair rulings, I wouldn't be talking to you this way. He's given me horrible rulings. Tapper: But I don't care if you criticize him. That's fine. You can criticize every decision. What I'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason why he can't do his job ... Trump: I think that's why he's doing it.
- hubert123 10y agoRace can be a motivator, you know that right? Human beings are not machines with 0 bias just because they are in a position where they are supposed to have 0 bias.
- mej10 10y agoYes, it can be. And if it is a major factor in this case, then there are methods of legal recourse. But instead he says that the judge treated him unfairly due to his race. Literally racist.
- hubert123 10y agoIf you would look at everything he said then you would know how he meant it. He mentioned LaRaza, he mentioned previous rulings from this judge and much more. Instead you pick one quote out and call it a day.
- mej10 10y agoI have read everything he has said about this, and I know what he wants us to hear. Honest questions: Do you think it is possible that Trump is just mad that he lost and is just trying to discredit the judge? Do you think Trump is the kind of person that would do something like that?
- clevernickname 10y agoDoes that mean that it is "literally racist" for a non-white person to claim a white police officer, judge, etc. treated them unfairly because of their race?
- mej10 10y agoWhenever there is no evidence to support their claim and they haven't taken steps to prove otherwise, yes.
- ethanhunt_ 10y agoThere is evidence to support the claim. The judge released information that he wasn't supposed to (judge reversed the release later), and he set the first court day on the day of the GOP convention. There's a few other things too. How is that no evidence? That is evidence to support the claim. Is it proof? Is it enough to condemn the judge? I don't know, but it is false to say that Trump came out of nowhere with this and has no evidence.
- AnimalMuppet 10y agoBut see, the way this is supposed to work is, you tell the court about it. If that doesn't work, you tell the appeals court about it. You don't throw claims like this around in the national media (at least, normal litigants don't).
- pbreit 10y agoThis passage supports OP claim that Trump only reacting to "horrible rulings". But that's clearly false: "“I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest"
- deleted 10y ago[deleted]
- ethanhunt_ 10y agoThose quotes prove my point. Trump did not say he can't do his job because of his heritage. He said he isn't doing his job, and that he thinks it's because of his heritage. And there's nothing racist about that conclusion. People do act based on their identity and heritage, and there's nothing wrong with that. If it affects their rulings as a judge, then that's problem, and all Trump has said is that he's not getting fair rulings (subjective, but that is his POV), and that there's an obvious potential conflict of interest.
- argonaut 10y agoLook, I get that Trump is saying "Unfair rulings, caused by being Mexican." But this is no different from "He is Mexican, which causes unfair rulings." It's logically equivalent. If you said "She is dumb because she's a girl," you would be (rightfully) pilloried for being sexist. No reasonable person is going to interpret that statement like you are interpreting Trump's comments.
- tomp 10y agoBlack people keep complaining all the time how whites are biased against the blacks. Are they (blacks) racist for pointing out something that might actually be true?!