> I pretty much agree entirely but have been too ashamed to say it :) I can understand that entirely, it's way too easy to get ostracized for having a positive

> I pretty much agree entirely but have been too ashamed to say it :) I can understand that entirely, it's way too easy to get ostracized for having a positive view on Maven or Java these days. Java as a language has warts, but thankfully there's a thriving community around the JVM and a wealth of alternate languages to pick up. Still, you can pull Maven out of my cold, dead hands. > As a tech decision maker I would love to build future projects with Rust or OCaml I would love to use OCaml but the lack of interfaces to a lot of tools we use really bites, so I've settled for F# (can't wait for .Net Core support). Until there's DB2 for i drivers plus Laserfiche by some miracle supporting any programming language not deemed "enterprise-grade" I'm stuck with .Net or JVM languages for a lot of things I do daily :(