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Why was China banned from buying Intel chips?

detaro 10y ago
> In a notice published online the US Department of Commerce said it refused Intel's application to export the chips for Tianhe-2 and three other Chinese supercomputers because the machines were being used for "nuclear explosive activities". http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/us-will-make-180-petaflop-supercomputer.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/us-will-make-180-petaflop-s...
- mtgx 10y ago
  Oh no, they're using their supercomputers to do nuclear research? That's horrible. Who would do such a thing? The given reason is all bullshit, and they must think we're all morons if they expect us to buy it. If anything it's retaliation for some IP theft or some silent trade war going on between China and the US. It's certainly not because the US gov is "shocked" that China uses its supercomputers to do nuclear research.
  - zhte415 10y ago
    If you want to sell technology products in the China market, you need to transfer technology to China, such as setting up a R&D centre. Everyone answers to sales. Then comes Machiavellian management strategies that demonstrate large companies are not idiots, and withdrawal of such scheme 2-5 years later, while still holding sales lines in China. Source: Have worked on both sides of the technology transfer equation.
  - ams6110 10y ago
    Who said anybody was shocked?
  - schoen 10y ago
    Simulating nuclear explosions in software has been a major response to treaties that forbid nuclear tests. As I think you were ironically pointing out, it's common now. It might be hard for the U.S. government to effectively prevent the Chinese government from doing these simulations, but it's plausible to me that the U.S. government would still want to see the Chinese government hindered in nuclear weapons simulations.
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    - yvdriess 10y ago
      It is interesting to point out that the last few nuclear tests were to test the supercomputer simulations.
  - CamperBob2 10y ago
    Naturally, the people who are modding you down are conspicuously silent on why it's necessary or even desirable to make it harder for China to simulate nuclear weapons.
hvs 10y ago
To prevent them from building a powerful supercomputer. No, seriously.

> In a notice published online the US Department of Commerce said it refused Intel's application to export the chips for Tianhe-2 and three other Chinese supercomputers because the machines were being used for "nuclear explosive activities". http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/us-will-make-180-petaflop-supercomputer.html http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/04/us-will-make-180-petaflop-s...

mtgx 10y ago
Oh no, they're using their supercomputers to do nuclear research? That's horrible. Who would do such a thing? The given reason is all bullshit, and they must think we're all morons if they expect us to buy it. If anything it's retaliation for some IP theft or some silent trade war going on between China and the US. It's certainly not because the US gov is "shocked" that China uses its supercomputers to do nuclear research.
- zhte415 10y ago
  If you want to sell technology products in the China market, you need to transfer technology to China, such as setting up a R&D centre. Everyone answers to sales. Then comes Machiavellian management strategies that demonstrate large companies are not idiots, and withdrawal of such scheme 2-5 years later, while still holding sales lines in China. Source: Have worked on both sides of the technology transfer equation.
- ams6110 10y ago
  Who said anybody was shocked?
- schoen 10y ago
  Simulating nuclear explosions in software has been a major response to treaties that forbid nuclear tests. As I think you were ironically pointing out, it's common now. It might be hard for the U.S. government to effectively prevent the Chinese government from doing these simulations, but it's plausible to me that the U.S. government would still want to see the Chinese government hindered in nuclear weapons simulations.
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  - yvdriess 10y ago
    It is interesting to point out that the last few nuclear tests were to test the supercomputer simulations.
- CamperBob2 10y ago
  Naturally, the people who are modding you down are conspicuously silent on why it's necessary or even desirable to make it harder for China to simulate nuclear weapons.

hvs 10y ago

To prevent them from building a powerful supercomputer. No, seriously.