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I really like what Ubuntu has accomplished so far. Karmic and Lucid are really solid. I think they're also getting the design down with some of the recent ann

I really like what Ubuntu has accomplished so far. Karmic and Lucid are really solid. I think they're also getting the design down with some of the recent announcements. The problem here is this: Canonical doesn't control the hardware. Will ubuntu start matching up with OS X? Sure. It might already in some aspects. People don't buy Macs JUST for OS X. If that were the case, Pystar would have sold more than 700 systems. People want the entire package. So, it's a purely windows vs ubuntu fight. Apple just makes for some nice headlines in an interview. Ubuntu needs to start getting people to produce machines with Ubuntu on it and make them ultra visible. One half assed attempt by Dell doesn't count.

jasonlotito 17y ago
People don't buy Macs -just- because Apple owns the hardware, either. Their hardware isn't anything special, in fact (My wife, a die-hard MacGeek, hasn't owned a Mac that she hasn't had to bring into repair or gotten use out of her AppleCare in some way). Mac's have a perceived higher value, as well as top-notch support. This isn't to say that Apple itself has better support than PC repair. I much prefer Microbytes over the Apple Stores 'Genius' bar any day of the week, but Apple doesn't have the perceived "higher quality" in the shopping experience then HP, Dell, or others have. Even if Canonical controlled the Hardware, they'd still have a long way to go before they reached the same experience that Apple provides from start to finish. I can buy an Apple product, and from the beginning to the end, I'm supported and assisted with almost every aspect of the mac in some manner, offline and online, even in person if I need it. Edit: Added -just-
- jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
  I should have used another word besides hardware. I mean everything from the industrial design, the support, the service, and full apple experience.
  - barnaby 17y ago
    and the marketing materials, commercials, advertisements, distribution deals, etc. etc.
  - jasonlotito 17y ago
    Every time I see Apple, hardware, and praise together I sort of reflect on my own experience of having to drive out a number of times over the course of a 6 week period, bringing out my wifes laptop and then bringing it back. Each time we brought it back, the problem hadn't been fixed, and by the time we were done, it had developed several new problems. It was annoying. Granted, she did have AppleCare, and because of the countless problems, they did replace her old MacBook Pro with a new one. Which has been experiencing problems with the keyboard and wireless connection for the past several months. >_< Of course, we are out of the original AppleCare now. Oh well. =)
    - astrange 17y ago
      Ask anyway and mention that it's a replacement. They're supposedly flexible.

jasonlotito 17y ago

People don't buy Macs -just- because Apple owns the hardware, either. Their hardware isn't anything special, in fact (My wife, a die-hard MacGeek, hasn't owned a Mac that she hasn't had to bring into repair or gotten use out of her AppleCare in some way). Mac's have a perceived higher value, as well as top-notch support. This isn't to say that Apple itself has better support than PC repair. I much prefer Microbytes over the Apple Stores 'Genius' bar any day of the week, but Apple doesn't have the perceived "higher quality" in the shopping experience then HP, Dell, or others have. Even if Canonical controlled the Hardware, they'd still have a long way to go before they reached the same experience that Apple provides from start to finish. I can buy an Apple product, and from the beginning to the end, I'm supported and assisted with almost every aspect of the mac in some manner, offline and online, even in person if I need it. Edit: Added -just-

jasonlbaptiste 17y ago
I should have used another word besides hardware. I mean everything from the industrial design, the support, the service, and full apple experience.
- barnaby 17y ago
  and the marketing materials, commercials, advertisements, distribution deals, etc. etc.
- jasonlotito 17y ago
  Every time I see Apple, hardware, and praise together I sort of reflect on my own experience of having to drive out a number of times over the course of a 6 week period, bringing out my wifes laptop and then bringing it back. Each time we brought it back, the problem hadn't been fixed, and by the time we were done, it had developed several new problems. It was annoying. Granted, she did have AppleCare, and because of the countless problems, they did replace her old MacBook Pro with a new one. Which has been experiencing problems with the keyboard and wireless connection for the past several months. >_< Of course, we are out of the original AppleCare now. Oh well. =)
  - astrange 17y ago
    Ask anyway and mention that it's a replacement. They're supposedly flexible.