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If not a ruse, this is a dumb post that discredits itself and calls makefiles hacky, not noticing that they are used by many people for most native programming

• efaref 10y ago
  The refusal of so many people in this industry to learn a pretty simple and incredibly fundamental tool frustrates me no end. I guess this article could be worse: the number of times I see people reimplement poorly thought out clones of make and present them as the new thing that everyone should use is just absurd.
  • nicky0 10y ago
    You are frustrated about people not learning this tool, any yet when someone publishes an article encouraging people to learn that very tool, you damn it?
  • girvo 10y ago
    For simple use cases, Make is simple (and lovely, in my opinion). For moderate to complex cases, Makes syntax and contortions you have to put yourself into to work around the barrier between what Make expects and how certain things can be done today can cause a bit of pain. That said, you can prize Make out of my cold dead hands. Still my favourite build tool, and damned powerful once you learn to tame it.
• deleted 10y ago
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• Singletoned 10y ago
  The gist of the post is that make is preferable to modern build systems. The author has used self-depracating humour to defend himself against attacks, but clearly it was too dry. If we stopped attacking the authors of articles, then it would be easier for them to write openly and less defensively, but unfortunately if you write anything on the internet, people will call you an idiot.
• madeofpalk 10y ago
  Why would it frustrate you that this is something people want to learn? There are plenty of valid reasons why an established developer would never use Make, namely integration with the rest of their 'ecosystem'. Also, there's plenty of reasons for everyone to get in and use Make where appropriate.
• coldtea 10y ago
  >If not a ruse, this is a dumb post that discredits itself and calls makefiles hacky, not noticing that they are used by many people for most native programming on most (unix type) platforms. Bah, you just take things too literally, and can't process/appreciate some obvious and light-hearted cultural signs. A post that makes a joke comment != a post that discredits itself. A post that warns that its own makefiles might be hacky != a post that calls makefiles inherently hacky (in fact this is obvious, since the post's goal is the inverse: to promote Make to people). A post that tries to introduce Make to a whole bunch of devs who don't know about it != a post that doesn't notice that Make is used by many people for native programming on unices