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Go Debian: Writing Debian tooling in Go

171 points by ashitlerferad 10y ago

dredmorbius 10y ago
That would be the language, Go, on the OS, Debian, used to manage Debian packages.
- profeta 10y ago
  in what seems to be a brand new implementation (though i failed to find source links) instead of using the 2 or 3 readily available C apis that can be ingested easily in tons of languages?
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - mikepurvis 10y ago
    https://pault.ag/go/debian https://pault.ag/go/debian https://github.com/paultag/go-debian https://github.com/paultag/go-debian
  - paultag 10y ago
    cgo has its own set of problems, and there is no single C API. The version comparison isn't in shared library form, and breaks API a lot. The C parser for dependencies isn't the same we use in control files, and there's no C API for parsing a deb (or unpacking control files). Most of this just has to be done. I take your point, but I couldn't find much. And I'm a debian developer - who knows what most non-Debian people would find. The best APIs are in `libapt`, which is C++, and cgo won't work with that all that well. So, yes, you're right. This is yet another project. That's uncool, but there's not a ton of other ways out, short of me making a clean C shared library and get everyone to switch to that :)
    - profeta 10y ago
      i stand corrected, and schooled! i never had to deal with that, so i assumed it was as nice as the rest of the debian stuff i had to deal in the past. Glad you're on to it! :D
      - paultag 10y ago
        <3 <3 <3
regecks 10y ago
That's pretty sweet. I'd love to see something similar for the EL family: RHEL, CentOS, Fedora. There's certainly a lot of opportunity, I think, to improve the Linux package management ecosystem. For example, Spacewalk is kind of terrible and I'd love build some projects implementing smaller parts of it (like checking security errata, SCAP audits), but working with rpm is a real bummer.
- sebcat 10y ago
  Career-wise, I came from a proprietary package management system to a red hat based one, and I don't know what you're talking about. Why do you think that spacewalk is kinda terrible, and why is working with rpm a real bummer? Personally, I only have good experiences with spacewalk, rpm, yum, dnf, mock, koji, kojira, &c, but I am also aware that there may be other, better systems out there.
sanxiyn 10y ago
Similar library for Python is https://packages.debian.org/sid/python-debian https://packages.debian.org/sid/python-debian.
tunnuz 10y ago
I love his blog template!
- urza 10y ago
  I really love the typography.. the font, its size, backgeound color.. it reads very well
  - paultag 10y ago
    <3 y'all
    - znpy 10y ago
      I actually dislike the fact that the website is wasting two thirds of my screen. But this is a general rant, not specific to this website. (please note that I am using a regular 15.6" FHD screen, nothing fancy)
- luckydude 10y ago
  Yeah, me too. Looks like old school typesetting back from when typesetters were artists. Nicely done and can we steal it?
sigio 10y ago
Archive.org link, since site seems down: http://web.archive.org/web/20160620114533/https://notes.pault.ag/go-debian/ http://web.archive.org/web/20160620114533/https://notes.paul...
- paultag 10y ago
  Eep. I do some messed up stuff with SNI; what's the error you're seeing?
0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago
What a nice font. The only improvement would be putting it on actual paper. Edit: What? Too far out of the box?
- spraak 10y ago
  Not for me. I agree!

171 points by ashitlerferad 10y ago

dredmorbius 10y ago

That would be the language, Go, on the OS, Debian, used to manage Debian packages.

profeta 10y ago
in what seems to be a brand new implementation (though i failed to find source links) instead of using the 2 or 3 readily available C apis that can be ingested easily in tons of languages?
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- mikepurvis 10y ago
  https://pault.ag/go/debian https://pault.ag/go/debian https://github.com/paultag/go-debian https://github.com/paultag/go-debian
- paultag 10y ago
  cgo has its own set of problems, and there is no single C API. The version comparison isn't in shared library form, and breaks API a lot. The C parser for dependencies isn't the same we use in control files, and there's no C API for parsing a deb (or unpacking control files). Most of this just has to be done. I take your point, but I couldn't find much. And I'm a debian developer - who knows what most non-Debian people would find. The best APIs are in `libapt`, which is C++, and cgo won't work with that all that well. So, yes, you're right. This is yet another project. That's uncool, but there's not a ton of other ways out, short of me making a clean C shared library and get everyone to switch to that :)
  - profeta 10y ago
    i stand corrected, and schooled! i never had to deal with that, so i assumed it was as nice as the rest of the debian stuff i had to deal in the past. Glad you're on to it! :D
    - paultag 10y ago
      <3 <3 <3

regecks 10y ago

That's pretty sweet. I'd love to see something similar for the EL family: RHEL, CentOS, Fedora. There's certainly a lot of opportunity, I think, to improve the Linux package management ecosystem. For example, Spacewalk is kind of terrible and I'd love build some projects implementing smaller parts of it (like checking security errata, SCAP audits), but working with rpm is a real bummer.

sebcat 10y ago
Career-wise, I came from a proprietary package management system to a red hat based one, and I don't know what you're talking about. Why do you think that spacewalk is kinda terrible, and why is working with rpm a real bummer? Personally, I only have good experiences with spacewalk, rpm, yum, dnf, mock, koji, kojira, &c, but I am also aware that there may be other, better systems out there.

sanxiyn 10y ago

Similar library for Python is https://packages.debian.org/sid/python-debian https://packages.debian.org/sid/python-debian.

tunnuz 10y ago

I love his blog template!

urza 10y ago
I really love the typography.. the font, its size, backgeound color.. it reads very well
- paultag 10y ago
  <3 y'all
  - znpy 10y ago
    I actually dislike the fact that the website is wasting two thirds of my screen. But this is a general rant, not specific to this website. (please note that I am using a regular 15.6" FHD screen, nothing fancy)
luckydude 10y ago
Yeah, me too. Looks like old school typesetting back from when typesetters were artists. Nicely done and can we steal it?

sigio 10y ago

Archive.org link, since site seems down: http://web.archive.org/web/20160620114533/https://notes.pault.ag/go-debian/ http://web.archive.org/web/20160620114533/https://notes.paul...

paultag 10y ago
Eep. I do some messed up stuff with SNI; what's the error you're seeing?

0xdeadbeefbabe 10y ago

What a nice font. The only improvement would be putting it on actual paper. Edit: What? Too far out of the box?

spraak 10y ago
Not for me. I agree!