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Can we stop posting articles that are behind a pay wall? What's the point of sharing if the link won't work for many readers?
by mckoss 10y ago
Can we stop posting articles that are behind a pay wall? What's the point of sharing if the link won't work for many readers?
- reefoctopus 10y agoYou can bypass the paywall for most of them by clicking the web link and visiting from Google search results.
- mckoss 10y agoI know that. So why not post the search link instead - i.e. one that will work for everyone? Or HN could implement a "search on Google" feature to get around it. Requiring readers to a) know this hack and b) perform it on a mobile device keyboard is the ultimate in poor usability.
- reefoctopus 10y agoYou don't need a keyboard. Click on the comments link and then click on the link marked "web" at the top of the page in the comments. There is a search link.
- mckoss 10y agoI've never noticed the "web" link before - that works for me (should this not be "search", btw). Thanks.
- jsprogrammer 10y agoShould be Google, I believe.
- cylinder 10y agoNo, just open in incognito.
- BurningFrog 10y agoNYT doesn't have a pay wall for the first 10 articles per month.
- mckoss 10y agoSo now I'm left playing link roulette - maybe we could only allow nyt links for the first 10 days of the month!
- nl 10y agoYou could pay. It is a radical solution, and one I haven't implemented for myself yet. But there are some reasonably serious arguments for it, and it would solve your immediate problem.
- mckoss 10y agoTrue enough. I was just proposing, for a site like HN that is about open discourse between members, that posting content that excludes many of our members is a poor choice.
- nl 10y agoOr you could always open NYTimes in incognito mode. I think NY Times content is frequently good enough that the inconvenience of various methods of getting the content makes it worthwhile.
- allenbrunson 10y agodang, the moderator here, has said many times that paywall links are acceptable on this site. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11924753 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11924753
- dredmorbius 10y agoClear cookies. I greatly dislike paywalls, and disagree, strongly, with HN's tolerance of them. But as paywalls go, the NYTimes' is rather permeable. And for the obligatory "but writers/publishers need to be paid": https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/2vm2da/why_information_goods_and_markets_are_a_poor_match/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/2vm2da/why_inf... https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1uotb3/a_modest_proposal_universal_online_media_payment/ https://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/1uotb3/a_modes... A $100/year fee would cover all existing Internet advertising paid by the 1 billion richest inhabitants of the world (roughly: US, EU, Canada, Japan, Australia, NZ). A $500/year fee would cover all advertising, full stop. Again, for the 1 billion richest inhabitants. I would prefer indexing this (progressively) to income.