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Yep! But his is not like an autoimmune disorder (e.g. type 1 diabetes). It's more like an acquire disease (i.e. type 2 diabetes), for which we fully understand
by Amygaz 10y ago
Yep! But his is not like an autoimmune disorder (e.g. type 1 diabetes). It's more like an acquire disease (i.e. type 2 diabetes), for which we fully understand how to prevent and alleviate, but somehow do not implement the necessary measures.
- marblar 10y agoGuess whose job it is to implement the necessary measures.
- lostlogin 10y agoLet's sort that at the preliminary scoping meeting before assigning it a team at the next quarterly.
- popmystack 10y agoThis comment is exactly what's wrong with the general hackernews community. You couldn't be more off base.
- bluejekyll 10y agoDid you read the article? This comment, while mildly joking, is derived from that article. I think the most important thing that it says: people should do a better job of thinking, and do less of regurgitating other people's philosophies. The points at the end are quite good, if very abstract.
- crdoconnor 10y agoIt's more like a host/parasite relationship. The cure, in any case (unionization of the value producers), isn't particularly obvious to most.
- mymosh 10y agoHow do you unionize just the value producers, without also unionizing (and entrenching) layers of middle management?
- crdoconnor 10y agoWhy would middle management need unionization?
- mymosh 10y agoWould a senior programmer be ejected from the union when they are promoted to say a project manager? I'm just not sure you can isolate value producers.
- crdoconnor 10y agoThe key question isn't "do they produce value?", it's "can they hire and fire?" Once people acquire power over resources/people the shift from value creation to value extraction is pretty natural.
- lsc 10y ago> The key question isn't "do they produce value?", it's "can they hire and fire?" This is traditionally the line that people draw, yes, but I think the reasons for that come from the other end. That's the thing; the manager who manages the cashiers at the grocery store doesn't have more power than the individual contributor software engineer who writes the software for the registers, not in any reasonable sense. That's not why the the line is traditionally drawn where it is. The line is traditionally drawn where it is because it is management's job to act as a proxy for the will and interests of the owners, and pretending to do that while being in the same union as the workers would be very difficult, or at the very least, quite awkward.
- crdoconnor 10y agoThe power relationship a cashier has with his hiring/firing manager at a grocery store is not materially different to the relationship a software developer has with his hiring/firing manager. In both cases the managers' job is to keep the workers in line.
- Joeri 10y agoExcept the unions will also grow a management structure or a political class, and eventually the two hierarchies get stuck in an uncomfortable stalemate.