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I agree broadly - and the current DAO was a terrible idea on many fronts, but I'll discuss one quibble in case it starts a broader discussion. > You can't poss
by nemild 10y ago
I agree broadly - and the current DAO was a terrible idea on many fronts, but I'll discuss one quibble in case it starts a broader discussion.
> You can't possibly create a smart contract to purchase a house, because at the end of the day the person that physically occupies the house is in the position of power.
It's likely that if something like this ever succeeded, there'd be many parties that would provide bridges between real world assets (dollars, a house, entry to an electronic lock) + real world contracts that might bridge to crypto contracts (so a trustee may hold a house under US law for a crypto title owned by others - similar to how a custodial bank holds financial assets on your behalf). You're right that the enforcement mechanism might be decoupled, but that doesn't make it worthless, as the trustee could still use the enforcement mechanism on the real world side. On the cryptocontract side, parts could be enforced like payments.
So why might crypto contracts be interesting in this case:
- There are too many parties involved and coordination costs are high (crypto contracts that millions of people collectively negotiate together)
- The adherents are international, and may prefer a standardized form of law accessible cheaply and easily to all
There are clearly an infinite number of risks - but this is just an example of how it might still be beneficial.
One other point. Everyone in this recent DAO hack discusses cryptocontracts as set in stone - and the be all, end all once published. Still, you could always inject in a party that adjudicates, but only in extreme scenarios (technically, they might have root access when a few parties with conflicting incentives agreed).
You might ask, doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of crypto contracts if third parties are involved - but there still may be value if the third party role is substantially diminished, or if previous forms of negotiation that never happened due to coordination cost now occur.
(the canonical Bitcoin example is escrow, where the two parties can verifiably escrow money which in the real world always required a third party actively involved, and a third party in the cryptocurrency world steps in only if there are issues that the two parties can't resolve and cannot take the money itself - 2 of 3 multisig).
- ethbro 10y ago- The adherents are international, and may prefer a standardized form of law accessible cheaply and easily to all I think this is undervalued, and probably going to become even more important in the future. Largely because it's something that the current legal framework simply doesn't provide. We have tenuous legal agreements between nation-states (largely of the "we choose to obey now because it's in our best interest" variety). And we have legal systems that apply in a single country. But we really don't have an ironclad anything in the ether (ha!) between those.
- nickpsecurity 10y agoMore than you think. One of the selling points for why some organizations, especially financial or legal, advertise they are in specific countries is a strong, consistent enforcement of specific things like banking integrity, contract law, I.P. law, whatever. It's important enough to business sector that it's on the international ratings for what countries are best to do business in. Also, Switzerland makes a killing in the financial sector using this approach. So, picking the best jurisdiction for something like this plus getting all parties to agree to settle disputes according to its laws would be a positive step for such organizations. Knocks out a whole category of risk. These decentralized schemes often pretend they won't need lawyers but they exist in real world for good reasons. Best to know what they can or can't do in at least all the common, criminal situations.