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Stalking the Wild Groundnut

34 points by Alex3917 10y ago

wtbob 10y ago
What a fascinating article! I wonder if the reaction to it is simply a latex reaction?
- Alex3917 10y ago
  Yeah, Sam Thayer's comments about racism with respect to eating native plants are what made me want to post this. I hadn't heard that before. In terms of the allergy, I agree that it's most likely either the latex or something else that's present when they're not fully cooked. I'd also be curious as to whether either the person digging them up or the person cooking them is more likely to have an allergic reaction than the people merely eating them.
  - wtbob 10y ago
    > Yeah, Sam Thayer's comments about racism with respect to eating native plants are what made me want to post this. I hadn't heard that before. They were interesting, but I wasn't convinced. I think it's not so much racism as those plants not fitting into traditional European methods of large-scale food production (unlike e.g. potatoes, corn, peppers, tomatoes, squash &c.). If you look at the traditional cuisine of e.g. the Tidewater region (up until the 1950s), you find an amazing amount of aboriginal foods in the diet. I think that if they could have included something in their methods of cultivation, they would have.
1024core 10y ago
For North Americans: "groundnut" is what the British call "peanut".
- laurencerowe 10y ago
  Peanuts are called peanuts in Britain.
  - flavor8 10y ago
    Peanuts are called peanuts in the US too.
- pvaldes 10y ago
  Both are from family Papilionaceae (Oh, my. I really said Apiaceae?) but two different plants. It seems that here you eat the root and in the classical peanut (mani, cacahuete) you eat the seeds. Interesting plant in any case I didn't know it. You need to be careful with this family, is not so directly brutal as the Apiaceae or Solanaceae that are poison maker masters, but can be tricky. Some "edible" wild species are dangerous for the health at long term (Damages in the nervous system). This is also the reason for not having "peas flour". You can't eat it raw and need to cook almost all legumes, poisonous in raw. This could be the reason for the plant being relatively obscure and unknown.
- manarth 10y ago
  The article is about Apios americana (groundnut), rather than Arachis hypogaea (peanut). They share the same order and family, but are a different genus. The article comments that "groundnut" is ambiguous, and refers to a variety of different plants (including peanuts): > "The plant was Apios americana, also known as wild bean, Indian potato, potato bean, and, most commonly, groundnut (though other plants, including peanuts, are also called groundnuts)."
phyzome 10y ago
I'm growing one of these this year! A friend gave me a 2 inch wide tuber and it sent up an 8 foot vine real fast this spring. Attractive foliage. I'm hoping to grow enough tubers to be able to eat some in a few years...
- flavor8 10y ago
  I'm also growing them, on year 2 now. Weeds tend to get ahead of them in early spring, but they're vigorous once they get off the ground. I'm also growing edible air potato one bed over. Anybody who's interested in this stuff should check out the books Paradise Lot and Perennial Vegetables, both by Eric Toensmeier.
hackaflocka 10y ago
FWIW, lotus stems (mentioned in the article as an extinct food in the Americas) are widely eaten in India. They're delicious.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  I think that's a different lotus; Nelumbo nucifera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera) for India and Nelumbo lutea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_lutea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_lutea) for America.
gameofdrones 10y ago
Neat. Speaking of stubborn, usually desirable plants: mint. Plant it separately in a container.
ars 10y ago
http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=APAM http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=APAM explains why they are not more popular: "Because of their vining nature, groundnut would be hard to grow on a field scale, and their annual yield appears to be quite low in comparison to other crops. Groundnut is difficult to cultivate mechanically, because each tuber can sprout and grow in the spring, filling in spaces between rows."
joveian 10y ago
Another interesting tuber I just found out about recently (although more popular in some parts of the world) is "Tiger Nuts": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyperus_esculentus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyperus_esculentus

34 points by Alex3917 10y ago

wtbob 10y ago

What a fascinating article! I wonder if the reaction to it is simply a latex reaction?

Alex3917 10y ago
Yeah, Sam Thayer's comments about racism with respect to eating native plants are what made me want to post this. I hadn't heard that before. In terms of the allergy, I agree that it's most likely either the latex or something else that's present when they're not fully cooked. I'd also be curious as to whether either the person digging them up or the person cooking them is more likely to have an allergic reaction than the people merely eating them.
- wtbob 10y ago
  > Yeah, Sam Thayer's comments about racism with respect to eating native plants are what made me want to post this. I hadn't heard that before. They were interesting, but I wasn't convinced. I think it's not so much racism as those plants not fitting into traditional European methods of large-scale food production (unlike e.g. potatoes, corn, peppers, tomatoes, squash &c.). If you look at the traditional cuisine of e.g. the Tidewater region (up until the 1950s), you find an amazing amount of aboriginal foods in the diet. I think that if they could have included something in their methods of cultivation, they would have.

1024core 10y ago

For North Americans: "groundnut" is what the British call "peanut".

laurencerowe 10y ago
Peanuts are called peanuts in Britain.
- flavor8 10y ago
  Peanuts are called peanuts in the US too.
pvaldes 10y ago
Both are from family Papilionaceae (Oh, my. I really said Apiaceae?) but two different plants. It seems that here you eat the root and in the classical peanut (mani, cacahuete) you eat the seeds. Interesting plant in any case I didn't know it. You need to be careful with this family, is not so directly brutal as the Apiaceae or Solanaceae that are poison maker masters, but can be tricky. Some "edible" wild species are dangerous for the health at long term (Damages in the nervous system). This is also the reason for not having "peas flour". You can't eat it raw and need to cook almost all legumes, poisonous in raw. This could be the reason for the plant being relatively obscure and unknown.
manarth 10y ago
The article is about Apios americana (groundnut), rather than Arachis hypogaea (peanut). They share the same order and family, but are a different genus. The article comments that "groundnut" is ambiguous, and refers to a variety of different plants (including peanuts): > "The plant was Apios americana, also known as wild bean, Indian potato, potato bean, and, most commonly, groundnut (though other plants, including peanuts, are also called groundnuts)."

phyzome 10y ago

I'm growing one of these this year! A friend gave me a 2 inch wide tuber and it sent up an 8 foot vine real fast this spring. Attractive foliage. I'm hoping to grow enough tubers to be able to eat some in a few years...

flavor8 10y ago
I'm also growing them, on year 2 now. Weeds tend to get ahead of them in early spring, but they're vigorous once they get off the ground. I'm also growing edible air potato one bed over. Anybody who's interested in this stuff should check out the books Paradise Lot and Perennial Vegetables, both by Eric Toensmeier.

hackaflocka 10y ago

FWIW, lotus stems (mentioned in the article as an extinct food in the Americas) are widely eaten in India. They're delicious.

GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
I think that's a different lotus; Nelumbo nucifera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_nucifera) for India and Nelumbo lutea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_lutea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbo_lutea) for America.

gameofdrones 10y ago

Neat. Speaking of stubborn, usually desirable plants: mint. Plant it separately in a container.

ars 10y ago

http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=APAM http://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=APAM explains why they are not more popular: "Because of their vining nature, groundnut would be hard to grow on a field scale, and their annual yield appears to be quite low in comparison to other crops. Groundnut is difficult to cultivate mechanically, because each tuber can sprout and grow in the spring, filling in spaces between rows."

joveian 10y ago

Another interesting tuber I just found out about recently (although more popular in some parts of the world) is "Tiger Nuts": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyperus_esculentus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyperus_esculentus