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Having lived in a Manhattan building where other tenants were basically subleasing their apartments on a daily and weekly basis to obnoxious guests, this is an

Having lived in a Manhattan building where other tenants were basically subleasing their apartments on a daily and weekly basis to obnoxious guests, this is an excellent step forward. I'm disappointed to see so many tweets from tech leaders (lots of them investors in AirBnb, so taken with a grain of salt) about how this will kill startups in NY, since that is very hyperbolic.

GoToRO 10y ago
this is not an "excellent step forward". This is a quick fix, later to be known as technical debt. An excellent step forward would have been if you could call Police for any neighbour that misbehave, no matter how he got inside that apartment.
- cddotdotslash 10y ago
  So you're going to call the police five times a month and say what? "My neighbor is renting his apartment illegally and his guests are loud and left trash in the hallway?" The police have better things to do. The building managers are a better place to start but this kind of abuse is quite widespread and not easily stopped. There are some people who have purchased or rented multiple units and then AirBnb them out like hotels. It's unsafe for the other residents, it's annoying for those who are paying rent and living in those apartments, and, it's illegal. This law now makes it easier to actually enforce since perviously it was very difficult to catch violators. Now, someone can just browse the site and find them without having to set up some form of sting operation.
  - GoToRO 10y ago
    I was thinking about big fines for noise and the like. If not paid by guest make the owner pay. But this needs time to be implemented (in law and in practice) and nobody has an financial interest to do it. So instead of that, what you have is all kinds of groups that request what sounds to me to be very absurd laws.

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Having lived in a Manhattan building where other tenants were basically subleasing their apartments on a daily and weekly basis to obnoxious guests, this is an

by cddotdotslash 10y ago

GoToRO 10y ago
this is not an "excellent step forward". This is a quick fix, later to be known as technical debt. An excellent step forward would have been if you could call Police for any neighbour that misbehave, no matter how he got inside that apartment.
- cddotdotslash 10y ago
  So you're going to call the police five times a month and say what? "My neighbor is renting his apartment illegally and his guests are loud and left trash in the hallway?" The police have better things to do. The building managers are a better place to start but this kind of abuse is quite widespread and not easily stopped. There are some people who have purchased or rented multiple units and then AirBnb them out like hotels. It's unsafe for the other residents, it's annoying for those who are paying rent and living in those apartments, and, it's illegal. This law now makes it easier to actually enforce since perviously it was very difficult to catch violators. Now, someone can just browse the site and find them without having to set up some form of sting operation.
  - GoToRO 10y ago
    I was thinking about big fines for noise and the like. If not paid by guest make the owner pay. But this needs time to be implemented (in law and in practice) and nobody has an financial interest to do it. So instead of that, what you have is all kinds of groups that request what sounds to me to be very absurd laws.