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Do I worry about climate change on "Earth where I live"? Definitely. Does it enter the short-list of problems important for me? Definitely not. Do I think tha
by guard-of-terra 10y ago
Do I worry about climate change on "Earth where I live"? Definitely.
Does it enter the short-list of problems important for me? Definitely not.
Do I think that sticking with pre-industrial climate is the only option? Frankly I don't. Stanislav Lem with his promised palm trees in Greenland is still vivid.
Just saying that because my point of view got to be represented.
- rvense 10y agoI think you'll find that science fiction authors are the only ones suggesting that the new climate will be better. Or at least that the period as we move towards a new equilibrium will be anything less than catastrophic.
- guard-of-terra 10y ago"the only ones suggesting that the new climate will be better" Or maybe quite contrary, it's only people of certain coasts that think our current climate was optimal. Yes we share a common Earth, but we do have conflicting interests on it.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago> Yes we share a common Earth, but we do have conflicting interests on it. True. But here I was thinking that we're above wanting to cut down the expense on heating for few million of our neighbours at the expense of fucking over the lives of several billion.
- mathgeek 10y agoHonestly, I don't think that's far off from the mindsets of a sizable number in the developed world.
- guard-of-terra 10y agoMore than a hundred millions of people stuck in cold climate. And it's about quality of life, not just "expense on heating". And that's what they get for no effort. Do you seriously expect them to show effort for bringing their climate back to worse? Do you seriously think that any minority should be screwed over just because a larger set of people might benefit from this? For example, imagine they find a deposit of fertilizer on some tropical island. A lot of people could benefit from that fertilizer (and especially the few involved in this operation), should we just confiscate the island? After all, there's just a few thousands of inhabitants, who can be easily moved to a camp in some desert.
- baddox 10y agoWait, are you suggesting that the mainstream view is that catastrophic climate change is inevitable? I don't think that's accurate.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoWell, the climate change might not be catastrophic per se, but I wouldn't be so sure about population movements it'll force, or its effect on global food supply. It would be a damn shame if technological civilization collapsed into war and famine just because the average temperature on the planet rose a few degrees. But it feels quite likely.
- baddox 10y agoIt all depends on how quickly the climate changes. Populations move and food production changes over time anyway, so a sufficiently gradual change in climate is probably not going to cause anything remotely resembling a catastrophe. I think climate change believers do a disservice when they overcompensate against climate change deniers by making claims about impending doom.
- Oletros 10y agoI would like to see those palm trees growing in the darkness of Greenland
- guard-of-terra 10y agoThey had artificial suns in orbit to bathe those in sunlight.
- nathan_f77 10y agoI would tend to agree with you. As of right now, I'm not personally involved in the fight against global warming. I'll try to do my part, but it's just like the efforts of one vegan trying to stop the slaughter of millions of animals. If it's going to happen, then it happens. I'll be reading the news all the way, but really the only thing I can do is to be prepared for the worst.