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You are probably right, people are dying in their thousands to cross the med because they want some more cash ...
by daleharvey 10y ago
You are probably right, people are dying in their thousands to cross the med because they want some more cash ...
- peteretep 10y agoWhy do you think they're crossing the med instead of staying in Turkey?
- daleharvey 10y agoTurkey doesnt give out refugee status and has little protection for refugees, including being able to return them to where they are fleeing from, it is completely overloaded with a lack of resources. While Europe makes it disgustingly hard for refugees to enter the human rights and eu law provided make it a much more realistic place to be stable / settled if you can get in.
- jkot 10y agoMaybe rather than forcing people to cross the sea, we could send money directly in the first place.
- dogma1138 10y agoTurkey is giving them a true refugee status rather than allowing them to arbitrarily seek asylum, Turkey is actually completely abiding by the UN convention on refugees while the EU are playing by their own rules.
- icebraining 10y agohttp://www.ibtimes.com/turkish-town-isis-crosshairs-kilis-residents-struggle-under-rocket-attacks-syria-2364467 http://www.ibtimes.com/turkish-town-isis-crosshairs-kilis-re...
- GunboatDiplomat 10y agoYou say that like money is not a motivator powerful enough for people to risk their life.
- lazyjones 10y agoIt's not "some cash" - it's free lifetime income, healthcare, housing, guaranteed additional income for family members, proper schooling for children etc. It's not greedy to try to obtain these with some risk and a $5k investment, but just wanting these is not a good enough reason for EU taxpayers to pay for millions of migrants - especially when there are many more needy who cannot afford to travel to Europe.
- dalke 10y agoSo they want a life like they had at home, before the war started. Makes sense to me. I mean, I would prefer that over living in a refugee camp for 15 years and being treated as a second-class citizen, with no future. "To live" is more than just existing. You'll note that the Syrian refugees are also going to places which don't list all the befits you described, like Brazil. Then again, there aren't many opportunities for them as they don't speak Portuguese. If you had to flee your country, would you want to go somewhere where you couldn't speak with the locals, or get a job?
- nazgob 10y agoDo refugees speak better German and Swedish then Portuguese?
- dalke 10y agoThe important question is can refugees communicate better in Germany and Sweden than in Brazil? One option is German or Swedish. It's very unlikely that a refugee will know either language. A large percentage of Germans and Swedes know English. If a refugee also knows English, that's one language possibility. Also, French is another widely spoken second language in Syria, though less common than English. (Remember, Syria was a French Mandate.) There is an existing minority population in both those countries which speaks Arabic. If a refugee also knows Arabic, that's another possibility. On the other hand, in Brazil, fewer people know English (5% says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-s... , compared to 64% for Germany and 86% for Sweden). And far fewer Brazilians know Arabic, or refugees know Portuguese. (I don't know the mutual overlap in French.) In any case, you can see it's much more likely that a refugee from Syria can communicate in either Germany or Sweden than in Brazil, even without knowing German or Swedish.