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Well ... uh ... I think ... I think ... uh ... everyone can hear me? ... I'll wait till the guys in the back ... oh and the girls, too, right hahahahahah ... OK

Well ... uh ... I think ... I think ... uh ... everyone can hear me? ... I'll wait till the guys in the back ... oh and the girls, too, right hahahahahah ... OK ... let's get started... Sure. I know Facebook wouldn't put out videos like that but it seems 80% of all videos linked to do start out like that and that's the quality you're going to get from anyone worth listening to. Even the polished ones, though, blatter on about things I don't care about but I can't skim ahead in the video without worrying I'm skipping something I really do want to hear. Thus, the advantage of text. To the point. Skimmable, both forward and backward with the ability to understand what you are skipping over. Have you ever read transcripts from talks given? Don't you wish someone would have edited out all the garbage talk beforehand? And doesn't your mouse wheel finger hurt scrolling down the page, only to be told "to hear the rest of the video, click here". Now let's talk about the weight of video files ....

Terribledactyl 10y ago
I completely agree there is a lot of garbage in a lot of video content, but if you can take advantage of the audio visual capacity you can get a lot. An example, Just watching a master craftsman do something can reveal a lot of tiny differences in technique that add up to a lot, but may not be written down explicitly.
- the_af 10y ago
  Agreed, watching someone do something with his/her hands is (almost always) better than reading about it. But consider another scenario: a video of someone showing you how they type some code while talking about it. This sort of videos are unbearable to me, and I don't understand how some people can enjoy them. I'd rather read the code in text form, at my own pace.
  - douche 10y ago
    My god, I hate coding videos. There is nothing more frustrating than a command-line Linux video. A.) I cannot copy/paste what you typed into your terminal into mine from a youtube video. Give a decent transcript with the steps enumerated.
    - shabble 10y ago
      I wonder if anyone has tried to build a ttyrec[0]/termrec player with synchronised audio? Then you have the best of both worlds. Adding some sort of out-of-band overlays (like iTerm2/3 annotation maybe[2]) for extra commentary would make it truly amazing. ..Looks like no, but in teh future plans of [1] at least. I'm not sure how the production workflow would go - I guess you'd - record your terminal session, perhaps with live audio recording. - if tools existed (which they afaik don't really), being able to clean up your ttyrecs to remove typos, speed up slow typing etc, would be amazing) - Maybe rerecord a commentary/narration audio on the edited visuals, and add any annotations. - publish, and glory in your multimedia educational creation! (As I continue to think about it, I'm tempted to try to build this. I wonder if it would get used?) [0] http://0xcc.net/ttyrec/ http://0xcc.net/ttyrec/ [1] http://tty-player.chrismorgan.info/#drop-in-video-replacement http://tty-player.chrismorgan.info/#drop-in-video-replacemen... [2] https://www.iterm2.com/img/screenshots/v3-screen-shots/iterm2-annotations.png https://www.iterm2.com/img/screenshots/v3-screen-shots/iterm...
oh_sigh 10y ago
Protip: set playback speed to 1.5x, it's in the gear menu on youtuba
kofejnik 10y ago
At first, I thought 'Yeah me too, text is so much more efficient', but then I realized something. Maybe it's only me, but for learning more complex things video lectures work wonders for me, probably because they force me to slow down and process information calmly and in order; while with text, I tend to hastily jump all over the place, skipping the more boring bits and missing important things.
- jsemrau 10y ago
  Opposite anecdotal evidence. I am terrible in following video lectures. But listening to audio books works wonders.
  - kofejnik 10y ago
    not really opposite imho, the point is 'explained slowly and methodically', seeing professor's face is completely optional
dexterdog 10y ago
That's why podcasts are so much better on 2-2.4x speed with a silence skipper. I get an effective 3x speed and as long as I'm paying attention I still get every word. It sounds like gibberish to most newcomers but if you slowly speed up you don't even notice the increments.
- jstimpfle 10y ago
  2.4x sounds incredible to me. I can't hear most lecturers at a speed faster than 1.6x.
  - Nimitz14 10y ago
    Really depends on the lecturer.. I can't watch Allan Adams in MIT quantum mechanics faster than 1.25x. Gilbert Strang's Linear Algebra on the otherhand I watched consistently at 2x.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    Lectures may require a slower speed. I am talking about more general podcasts where there is more of a discussion going on. If the speaker is fast or if there is a wealth of numbers being recited you may need to slow it down. I don't have a single podcast that I run slower than 2x which yields an actual 2.6x with silence skipping.

Terribledactyl 10y ago

I completely agree there is a lot of garbage in a lot of video content, but if you can take advantage of the audio visual capacity you can get a lot. An example, Just watching a master craftsman do something can reveal a lot of tiny differences in technique that add up to a lot, but may not be written down explicitly.

the_af 10y ago
Agreed, watching someone do something with his/her hands is (almost always) better than reading about it. But consider another scenario: a video of someone showing you how they type some code while talking about it. This sort of videos are unbearable to me, and I don't understand how some people can enjoy them. I'd rather read the code in text form, at my own pace.
- douche 10y ago
  My god, I hate coding videos. There is nothing more frustrating than a command-line Linux video. A.) I cannot copy/paste what you typed into your terminal into mine from a youtube video. Give a decent transcript with the steps enumerated.
  - shabble 10y ago
    I wonder if anyone has tried to build a ttyrec[0]/termrec player with synchronised audio? Then you have the best of both worlds. Adding some sort of out-of-band overlays (like iTerm2/3 annotation maybe[2]) for extra commentary would make it truly amazing. ..Looks like no, but in teh future plans of [1] at least. I'm not sure how the production workflow would go - I guess you'd - record your terminal session, perhaps with live audio recording. - if tools existed (which they afaik don't really), being able to clean up your ttyrecs to remove typos, speed up slow typing etc, would be amazing) - Maybe rerecord a commentary/narration audio on the edited visuals, and add any annotations. - publish, and glory in your multimedia educational creation! (As I continue to think about it, I'm tempted to try to build this. I wonder if it would get used?) [0] http://0xcc.net/ttyrec/ http://0xcc.net/ttyrec/ [1] http://tty-player.chrismorgan.info/#drop-in-video-replacement http://tty-player.chrismorgan.info/#drop-in-video-replacemen... [2] https://www.iterm2.com/img/screenshots/v3-screen-shots/iterm2-annotations.png https://www.iterm2.com/img/screenshots/v3-screen-shots/iterm...

oh_sigh 10y ago

Protip: set playback speed to 1.5x, it's in the gear menu on youtuba

kofejnik 10y ago

At first, I thought 'Yeah me too, text is so much more efficient', but then I realized something. Maybe it's only me, but for learning more complex things video lectures work wonders for me, probably because they force me to slow down and process information calmly and in order; while with text, I tend to hastily jump all over the place, skipping the more boring bits and missing important things.

jsemrau 10y ago
Opposite anecdotal evidence. I am terrible in following video lectures. But listening to audio books works wonders.
- kofejnik 10y ago
  not really opposite imho, the point is 'explained slowly and methodically', seeing professor's face is completely optional

dexterdog 10y ago

That's why podcasts are so much better on 2-2.4x speed with a silence skipper. I get an effective 3x speed and as long as I'm paying attention I still get every word. It sounds like gibberish to most newcomers but if you slowly speed up you don't even notice the increments.

jstimpfle 10y ago
2.4x sounds incredible to me. I can't hear most lecturers at a speed faster than 1.6x.
- Nimitz14 10y ago
  Really depends on the lecturer.. I can't watch Allan Adams in MIT quantum mechanics faster than 1.25x. Gilbert Strang's Linear Algebra on the otherhand I watched consistently at 2x.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  Lectures may require a slower speed. I am talking about more general podcasts where there is more of a discussion going on. If the speaker is fast or if there is a wealth of numbers being recited you may need to slow it down. I don't have a single podcast that I run slower than 2x which yields an actual 2.6x with silence skipping.