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$22m is insane. Hopefully it will be reduced on appeal to something more reasonable, like $220k. On the other hand, there should be criminal charges against th

by Camillo 10y ago

$22m is insane. Hopefully it will be reduced on appeal to something more reasonable, like $220k. On the other hand, there should be criminal charges against the cops.

DrScump 10y ago
In an earlier article, the city attorney said that she was never properly served, and therefore no defense was mounted.
- sthu11182 10y ago
  I haven't check here, but when you sue a state or a city, they usually have stringent rules on service (i.e., a form must be filed with 30 days of incident).
wl 10y ago
$22 million is very reasonable. There is no excuse for the behavior at issue here. The amount provides a very strong incentive to the city of East Cleveland to never let anything like this happen again. It puts other police departments on notice that things like this can destroy them. Unfortunately, this probably will be significantly reduced on appeal.
ubersync 10y ago
Let's put this another way. Would you, if given the option, go through this humiliation for 220k? I wouldn't. Not even for 2 million.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  220K - probably. $2 mil - absolutely. Can I do it more than once?
  - alasdair_ 10y ago
    It's fine if you know you are going to get out. It's much less fine if you honestly believe you could die in there.
Ironchefpython 10y ago
Hypothetical question: Would you rather the city had to pay $22 million in damages, and take active steps to prevent their city police from engaging in kidnapping, assault, and false imprisonment? Or, would you rather the city paid only $220k, and it became the new normal? > On the other hand, there should be criminal charges against the cops. In this country, the judicial system cannot police itself. Asking police to police police is an exercise in futility, and civilian oversight is nearly always subject to regulatory capture, as the oversight boards will eventually be composed of people who have a strong incentive to side with the police rather than "criminals".

by Camillo 10y ago

$22m is insane. Hopefully it will be reduced on appeal to something more reasonable, like $220k. On the other hand, there should be criminal charges against the cops.

DrScump 10y ago

In an earlier article, the city attorney said that she was never properly served, and therefore no defense was mounted.

sthu11182 10y ago
I haven't check here, but when you sue a state or a city, they usually have stringent rules on service (i.e., a form must be filed with 30 days of incident).

wl 10y ago

$22 million is very reasonable. There is no excuse for the behavior at issue here. The amount provides a very strong incentive to the city of East Cleveland to never let anything like this happen again. It puts other police departments on notice that things like this can destroy them. Unfortunately, this probably will be significantly reduced on appeal.

ubersync 10y ago

Let's put this another way. Would you, if given the option, go through this humiliation for 220k? I wouldn't. Not even for 2 million.

dexterdog 10y ago
220K - probably. $2 mil - absolutely. Can I do it more than once?
- alasdair_ 10y ago
  It's fine if you know you are going to get out. It's much less fine if you honestly believe you could die in there.

Ironchefpython 10y ago

Hypothetical question: Would you rather the city had to pay $22 million in damages, and take active steps to prevent their city police from engaging in kidnapping, assault, and false imprisonment? Or, would you rather the city paid only $220k, and it became the new normal? > On the other hand, there should be criminal charges against the cops. In this country, the judicial system cannot police itself. Asking police to police police is an exercise in futility, and civilian oversight is nearly always subject to regulatory capture, as the oversight boards will eventually be composed of people who have a strong incentive to side with the police rather than "criminals".