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Is Bootstrap development starting to stall?

4 points by rwl4 10y ago

d33 10y ago
I'd argue that it might be a good thing. Should it take infinite energy to solve the problem of creating a decent CSS framework that works in modern browsers?
- rwl4 10y ago
  The challenge is that frameworks like TWBS and Foundation provide web developers with a great boost in productivity when trying to hammer out a product. They can spend more time on building a quality product and less time on the minutiae. It also creates a shared vernacular for the developer and the designer to work with. Without it, things are more grey. Obviously some people hate these frameworks, and that's totally valid too, but for some people, they really are a boost.
  - detaro 10y ago
    I interpreted d33's comment along the lines that maintaining a matured framework should need less effort than it took to initially build it, so it would be natural that the amount of changes is shrinking.
inertia186 10y ago
No.
- rwl4 10y ago
  No?
  - niftich 10y ago
    I mean, maybe? What's a 'stall'? Are we measuring commits/day? Is it important to have a constant number of commits/day throughout the lifetime of the product? Why can't something like this be considered 'feature-complete'? Suppose at some point we run out of major features to add and infinite refactoring to do, and will only fix bugs? Will the framework be considered 'stalled' then, or merely 'mature'?
elmojenkins 10y ago
Yep, stalled for sure. There are only so many 'issues' that a framework can solve and make things easier for you. Why not take advantage of a few basic features right? Why re-invent the wheel? Perhaps this is the answer. You can only rely on the framework to get you so far. These frameworks have become a crutch for developers.
dhilipsiva 10y ago
No - It did not stall. The contributions graph are ONLY for commits on master branch. As you can switch to other branches - you can notice that they have 2k,3k or 4k commits ahead of master. Its being actively developed. But not much on master branch. Just on different branches. Mostly on v4-dev branch.

4 points by rwl4 10y ago

d33 10y ago

I'd argue that it might be a good thing. Should it take infinite energy to solve the problem of creating a decent CSS framework that works in modern browsers?

rwl4 10y ago
The challenge is that frameworks like TWBS and Foundation provide web developers with a great boost in productivity when trying to hammer out a product. They can spend more time on building a quality product and less time on the minutiae. It also creates a shared vernacular for the developer and the designer to work with. Without it, things are more grey. Obviously some people hate these frameworks, and that's totally valid too, but for some people, they really are a boost.
- detaro 10y ago
  I interpreted d33's comment along the lines that maintaining a matured framework should need less effort than it took to initially build it, so it would be natural that the amount of changes is shrinking.

inertia186 10y ago

No.

rwl4 10y ago
No?
- niftich 10y ago
  I mean, maybe? What's a 'stall'? Are we measuring commits/day? Is it important to have a constant number of commits/day throughout the lifetime of the product? Why can't something like this be considered 'feature-complete'? Suppose at some point we run out of major features to add and infinite refactoring to do, and will only fix bugs? Will the framework be considered 'stalled' then, or merely 'mature'?

elmojenkins 10y ago

Yep, stalled for sure. There are only so many 'issues' that a framework can solve and make things easier for you. Why not take advantage of a few basic features right? Why re-invent the wheel? Perhaps this is the answer. You can only rely on the framework to get you so far. These frameworks have become a crutch for developers.

dhilipsiva 10y ago

No - It did not stall. The contributions graph are ONLY for commits on master branch. As you can switch to other branches - you can notice that they have 2k,3k or 4k commits ahead of master. Its being actively developed. But not much on master branch. Just on different branches. Mostly on v4-dev branch.