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Remember that when they say it's a suggestion, it's truly a suggestion. If a majority of the miners refuse to accept the update, then what anyone at the Ethereu

Remember that when they say it's a suggestion, it's truly a suggestion. If a majority of the miners refuse to accept the update, then what anyone at the Ethereum foundation wants them to do is irrelevant. There is definitely a lot of social pressure to consider here, but there is still no central switch. I'm generally not a huge fan of cryptocurrency (as currencies that is, I love the tech), but I fail to understand why so many people who are oppose this move so rabidly. They're in the same situation with respect to forking that they were yesterday: whatever 51% of the community decides to do will happen.

joosters 10y ago
Rubbish, this is as centralised as you can get. Of course it will go through, because the alternative will cause forks and chaos. Miners have little to no choice but accept this decision from on high.
- johncolanduoni 10y ago
  By the same standard, any theoretically forkable open source project with an even slightly non-isotropic community surrounding it is "as centralized as you can get". What exactly is decentralized then?
makomk 10y ago
A lot of social pressure is probably an understatement. slock.it are implying that people who oppose the hard fork are likely to be the attacker and asking people to contact them with information about the identity of anyone who organizes opposition to it: https://twitter.com/christopherhesh/status/743794479736496128 https://twitter.com/christopherhesh/status/74379447973649612...
- johncolanduoni 10y ago
  Yeah, but that's slock.it (not the Ethereum foundation) who were the same ones who found a similar bug in their code elsewhere are just plastered over it while claiming that there was no risk. They have a history of being cocksure about their programming, and didn't even think to take a quick look at the rest of their code. It's unsurprising that they're being scuzzy about this too, and I think the Ethereum community is pretty fed up with them at this point :P

joosters 10y ago

Rubbish, this is as centralised as you can get. Of course it will go through, because the alternative will cause forks and chaos. Miners have little to no choice but accept this decision from on high.

johncolanduoni 10y ago
By the same standard, any theoretically forkable open source project with an even slightly non-isotropic community surrounding it is "as centralized as you can get". What exactly is decentralized then?

makomk 10y ago

A lot of social pressure is probably an understatement. slock.it are implying that people who oppose the hard fork are likely to be the attacker and asking people to contact them with information about the identity of anyone who organizes opposition to it: https://twitter.com/christopherhesh/status/743794479736496128 https://twitter.com/christopherhesh/status/74379447973649612...

johncolanduoni 10y ago
Yeah, but that's slock.it (not the Ethereum foundation) who were the same ones who found a similar bug in their code elsewhere are just plastered over it while claiming that there was no risk. They have a history of being cocksure about their programming, and didn't even think to take a quick look at the rest of their code. It's unsurprising that they're being scuzzy about this too, and I think the Ethereum community is pretty fed up with them at this point :P