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I am sick and tired of these wrappers falsely branded as "desktop apps". This is not a desktop app, i.e. not a native client. It's an embedded browser that come

by nikolay 10y ago

I am sick and tired of these wrappers falsely branded as "desktop apps". This is not a desktop app, i.e. not a native client. It's an embedded browser that comes with even more negatives than a Chrome app/panel! Now, when we have libui-node [0], which is a Node.js wrapper around libui [1], developers, you have no excuses! [0]: https://www.npmjs.com/package/libui-node https://www.npmjs.com/package/libui-node [1]: https://github.com/andlabs/libui https://github.com/andlabs/libui

SlashmanX 10y ago
> you have no excuses! > It is in early stage of development > OSX should work too, but it's not tested. > Windows has yet to be configured in build scripts, but it will be supported in further releases. > There are very few tests developed > This is not yet battle-tested in a real app All that from the official Readme [0] and you're saying there's no reason not to use it? [0] https://github.com/parro-it/libui-node https://github.com/parro-it/libui-node
- nikolay 10y ago
  This is just one of the wrappers around libui [0], which itself works fine, and is tested on all platforms. Well, it's in alpha stage, true, but so what - wait until it's stable, and then start building? [0]: https://github.com/andlabs/libui https://github.com/andlabs/libui
  - ohitsdom 10y ago
    You're criticizing a released project for their technology choice, advocating that they should have waited to build it until some other tech was ready... Maybe take a step back and just appreciate that they built and shipped something. If you hate Electron, move on and don't use it.
    - nikolay 10y ago
      Did you care to read? I meant they should not wait. Electron uses gigabytes of RAM - it's the one reason I switched to weechat from Slack's "desktop" client! Such "desktop" apps are a disgrace and they run way more efficiently in the browser compared to having multiple copies of browsers running in parallel.
      - ohitsdom 10y ago
        Slack is currently using 144 MB on my Windows machine (with a lot of public channels and DMs active). Electron may give up some performance for a lower development effort, but that's the known trade-off. I think you're making it sound a little more bleak than it actually is, current performance of Electron apps is pretty good (if designed properly).
        nikolay 10y ago
        Send me a screenshot and make sure it includes virtual memory as well. I've never had any embeded browser app to use less than a GB of overall memory (in most cases, Slack uses well over 2GB).
hugozap 10y ago
Funny how these Open Source projects affect some people, there are other options out there. Most likely you didn't even try it.

by nikolay 10y ago

SlashmanX 10y ago

> you have no excuses! > It is in early stage of development > OSX should work too, but it's not tested. > Windows has yet to be configured in build scripts, but it will be supported in further releases. > There are very few tests developed > This is not yet battle-tested in a real app All that from the official Readme [0] and you're saying there's no reason not to use it? [0] https://github.com/parro-it/libui-node https://github.com/parro-it/libui-node

nikolay 10y ago
This is just one of the wrappers around libui [0], which itself works fine, and is tested on all platforms. Well, it's in alpha stage, true, but so what - wait until it's stable, and then start building? [0]: https://github.com/andlabs/libui https://github.com/andlabs/libui
- ohitsdom 10y ago
  You're criticizing a released project for their technology choice, advocating that they should have waited to build it until some other tech was ready... Maybe take a step back and just appreciate that they built and shipped something. If you hate Electron, move on and don't use it.
  - nikolay 10y ago
    Did you care to read? I meant they should not wait. Electron uses gigabytes of RAM - it's the one reason I switched to weechat from Slack's "desktop" client! Such "desktop" apps are a disgrace and they run way more efficiently in the browser compared to having multiple copies of browsers running in parallel.
    - ohitsdom 10y ago
      Slack is currently using 144 MB on my Windows machine (with a lot of public channels and DMs active). Electron may give up some performance for a lower development effort, but that's the known trade-off. I think you're making it sound a little more bleak than it actually is, current performance of Electron apps is pretty good (if designed properly).
      - nikolay 10y ago
        Send me a screenshot and make sure it includes virtual memory as well. I've never had any embeded browser app to use less than a GB of overall memory (in most cases, Slack uses well over 2GB).

hugozap 10y ago

Funny how these Open Source projects affect some people, there are other options out there. Most likely you didn't even try it.