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(Please don't downvote parent if you disagree with parent's opinion, downvote only if it doesn't contribute to the discussion) @ZenPsycho: A standard library d

by rkwz 10y ago

(Please don't downvote parent if you disagree with parent's opinion, downvote only if it doesn't contribute to the discussion) @ZenPsycho: A standard library doesn't always have to mean file io or sockets etc. It could be better String/Array/Object manipulation apis, better utility functions (kinda like what underscore/loadsh provide) etc These are universal helpers that are very much needed whether you're writing code that runs in browser/server/mobile/iot etc. > If file I/O had been standardised years ago, with API designed by server programmers the browser would be saddled with lousy synchronous stuff that hangs the browser UI Maybe a bad example, but wouldn't sync file io be a problem in server as well?

Kiro 10y ago
> Please don't downvote parent if you disagree with parent's opinion, downvote only if it doesn't contribute to the discussion You are wrong. It's absolutely fine to downvote on disagreement. See the following comment from pg himself: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171
- tragic 10y ago
  It's also fine not to, which means (in my view) it's fine to ask others not to, if you disagree with pg and think it's unhelpful.
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- LionessLover 10y ago
  Which is wrong. As is the use of "absolutely" - to show that you have the universe-opinion. What hubris. And it does not matter that some guy "himself" posted some opinion either. Right were you link to there are different opinions from other people that show more thought was put into them. The "pg" comment actually is the only one for your argument, all others are against!
  - jholman 10y ago
    pg wrote the site, pg is one of the owners of the site, pg was the only admin at the time that that comment was written. Admins/maintainers (dang) since then haven't disagreed. That makes it site policy, doesn't it? When you come to a new site, it's usually considered civil to learn the rules of that site, although of course I cannot force you to do so. For example, assuming that reddit rules apply on HN is kinda silly. Relatedly, you might be interested to note that there are dozens of HN old-timers that will automatically downvote (nearly) any comment that contains a "downvote me if you want" or a "don't just downvote me if you disagree" or "these downvotes are BS" or something. You're right, though, that not all users agree. And hopefully you learn from this comment that it's okay, on HN, to downvote me if you disagree, even if you think I contributed to the conversation. PS: welcome to HN.
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    - LionessLover 10y ago
      > pg wrote the site What does ownership have to do with it? That does not make him more right than any other human being. Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        >That does not make him more right than any other human being. No, just the only relevant person to say what is welcome and allowed in HIS social bookmarking forum and what's not. >Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient. "House rules" are not meant to be perfect or agreeable to all -- they are just meant to be whatever those running and owing the house decide.
        LionessLover 10y ago
        > pg wrote the site What does ownership have to do with it, you fucking moron? That does not make him more right than any other human being. Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient.
- norswap 10y ago
  The irony of your post getting downvoted is delightful. (I myself agree with you.)
  - ZenPsycho 10y ago
    also ironic: it's my highest scored comment ever.
- LionessLover 10y ago
  Which is wrong. As is the use of "absolutely" - to show that you have the universe-opinion. What hubris. And it does not matter that some guy "himself" posted some opinion either. Right were you link to there are different opinions from other people that show more thought was put into them. The "pg" comment actually is the only one for your argument, all others are against!
rictic 10y ago
Manipulation and utility functions like Object.keys, Object.values, Object.entries, Array.isArray, Array.prototype.includes, Sets, Maps, and many more? Because those and more are actual accepted additions to Javascript over the past several years.

by rkwz 10y ago

Kiro 10y ago

> Please don't downvote parent if you disagree with parent's opinion, downvote only if it doesn't contribute to the discussion You are wrong. It's absolutely fine to downvote on disagreement. See the following comment from pg himself: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171

tragic 10y ago
It's also fine not to, which means (in my view) it's fine to ask others not to, if you disagree with pg and think it's unhelpful.
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LionessLover 10y ago
Which is wrong. As is the use of "absolutely" - to show that you have the universe-opinion. What hubris. And it does not matter that some guy "himself" posted some opinion either. Right were you link to there are different opinions from other people that show more thought was put into them. The "pg" comment actually is the only one for your argument, all others are against!
- jholman 10y ago
  pg wrote the site, pg is one of the owners of the site, pg was the only admin at the time that that comment was written. Admins/maintainers (dang) since then haven't disagreed. That makes it site policy, doesn't it? When you come to a new site, it's usually considered civil to learn the rules of that site, although of course I cannot force you to do so. For example, assuming that reddit rules apply on HN is kinda silly. Relatedly, you might be interested to note that there are dozens of HN old-timers that will automatically downvote (nearly) any comment that contains a "downvote me if you want" or a "don't just downvote me if you disagree" or "these downvotes are BS" or something. You're right, though, that not all users agree. And hopefully you learn from this comment that it's okay, on HN, to downvote me if you disagree, even if you think I contributed to the conversation. PS: welcome to HN.
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  - LionessLover 10y ago
    > pg wrote the site What does ownership have to do with it? That does not make him more right than any other human being. Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      >That does not make him more right than any other human being. No, just the only relevant person to say what is welcome and allowed in HIS social bookmarking forum and what's not. >Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient. "House rules" are not meant to be perfect or agreeable to all -- they are just meant to be whatever those running and owing the house decide.
      - LionessLover 10y ago
        > pg wrote the site What does ownership have to do with it, you fucking moron? That does not make him more right than any other human being. Ownership means one can impose ones will, it does not mean you are omniscient.
norswap 10y ago
The irony of your post getting downvoted is delightful. (I myself agree with you.)
- ZenPsycho 10y ago
  also ironic: it's my highest scored comment ever.
LionessLover 10y ago
Which is wrong. As is the use of "absolutely" - to show that you have the universe-opinion. What hubris. And it does not matter that some guy "himself" posted some opinion either. Right were you link to there are different opinions from other people that show more thought was put into them. The "pg" comment actually is the only one for your argument, all others are against!

rictic 10y ago

Manipulation and utility functions like Object.keys, Object.values, Object.entries, Array.isArray, Array.prototype.includes, Sets, Maps, and many more? Because those and more are actual accepted additions to Javascript over the past several years.