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>Now imagine you spent a lot of money to get a house with a nice view. Suddenly Larry Ellison decides to build a skyscraper next door, which blocks the sun on y

>Now imagine you spent a lot of money to get a house with a nice view. Suddenly Larry Ellison decides to build a skyscraper next door, which blocks the sun on your property every day. You can't even grow flowers anymore because there's not enough sun. Some of your trees die. Are you happy? I have trees now!? Flowers? Luxury! My current apartment doesn't get enough sun to grow plants that need sun. And we pay $2200/month for a two-bedroom apartment here.

sk5t 10y ago
You're arguing the hypothetical...
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  No, I'm pointing out that the hypotheticals used to make NIMBY sound sensible apply very, very rarely, and also presume that the supposed beneficiaries of NIMBY have a higher initial, pre-urban-density standard of living than we actually do.
  - MaulingMonkey 10y ago
    So you live next to a noisy factory and a smelly dairy farm too?
  - ktRolster 10y ago
    I think you need to read the third paragraph, which is the more common case (although the other two paragraphs were based on real-life experience, too).
    - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
      Housing is supposed to be a durable good, not an investment asset.
      - ktRolster 10y ago
        You have a surprising inability to understand things from other people's viewpoints. In other words, you lack empathy.
        dang 10y ago
        No personal attacks on HN, please, even when someone else's comment is frustrating and/or wrong.
      - khedoros 10y ago
        I own because I want to live where I am, but I might eventually want to move. If someone builds something that lowers my home's value by 25%, then that's a good chunk of change that I won't be able to repay on the loan if I were to want to sell. I didn't buy because it's an investment, but it acts like one anyhow, whether I like it or not. I'd prefer it if someone else's actions don't essentially shackle me to where I am.
kirubakaran 10y ago
Wow $2200 for a 2 bed? Luxury! That's how much you'll pay for a studio here in Mission, SF... if you're lucky. (and I wish this were a Four Yorkshiremen reference[1]. No!) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
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sk5t 10y ago

You're arguing the hypothetical...

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
No, I'm pointing out that the hypotheticals used to make NIMBY sound sensible apply very, very rarely, and also presume that the supposed beneficiaries of NIMBY have a higher initial, pre-urban-density standard of living than we actually do.
- MaulingMonkey 10y ago
  So you live next to a noisy factory and a smelly dairy farm too?
- ktRolster 10y ago
  I think you need to read the third paragraph, which is the more common case (although the other two paragraphs were based on real-life experience, too).
  - eli_gottlieb 10y ago
    Housing is supposed to be a durable good, not an investment asset.
    - ktRolster 10y ago
      You have a surprising inability to understand things from other people's viewpoints. In other words, you lack empathy.
      - dang 10y ago
        No personal attacks on HN, please, even when someone else's comment is frustrating and/or wrong.
    - khedoros 10y ago
      I own because I want to live where I am, but I might eventually want to move. If someone builds something that lowers my home's value by 25%, then that's a good chunk of change that I won't be able to repay on the loan if I were to want to sell. I didn't buy because it's an investment, but it acts like one anyhow, whether I like it or not. I'd prefer it if someone else's actions don't essentially shackle me to where I am.

kirubakaran 10y ago

Wow $2200 for a 2 bed? Luxury! That's how much you'll pay for a studio here in Mission, SF... if you're lucky. (and I wish this were a Four Yorkshiremen reference[1]. No!) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo

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