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"We updated our findings with the recent improvements in Android M (Marshmallow), and recently released a solution for Android’s USB audio and MIDI challenges,

by szantog 10y ago

"We updated our findings with the recent improvements in Android M (Marshmallow), and recently released a solution for Android’s USB audio and MIDI challenges, opening a market of 1.1 billion devices for pro audio application creators." Those are two separate things: 1. Updated analysis on the latency with regards to Marshmallow. 2. Superpowered USB Audio and MIDI SDK opens a market of 1.1 billion devices.

andrewstuart2 10y ago
A brief skim of the article they link regarding Marshmallow [1] provides this quote: > As readers may recall, 10ms round-trip audio latency is the threshold that must be met by Android to be considered truly 'pro audio'. This wasn't possible before Marshmallow (per aforementioned article), and therefore pro-quality audio apps are still only truly possible on 10% of Android devices. So the market is opened up for 100 million devices. I'm not saying it's not a huge number of devices. But it's not as huge as the blog states. [1] http://superpowered.com/superpowered-android-media-server http://superpowered.com/superpowered-android-media-server
- JohnTHaller 10y ago
  It's open to more of them the 10% that currently have it. Whether the OEM provides a build of Android Marshmallow or not plays a roll for most consumers. Quite a few consumers have the option to unlock their device and bypass the OEM to get Android Marshmallow on their device (Cyanogen et al).
- szantog 10y ago
  I'm one of the authors of the article, and the CTO of Superpowered. I apologize if the article was confusing. Marshmallow improves audio latency here and there on some devices, but even Android N has the fundamental audio stack problems we mention in the articles. There is no Android version delivering <= 10 ms round-trip audio latency. Audio can be handled by built-in hardware or external (USB) hardware. External: Android is not able to deliver glitch-free low latency audio on USB devices. We introduced a solution for this last month, that's one of the links on the top of the article. It opens up a market of 1.1 billion devices (meaning, Android 4.4.4 and up) for USB audio on Android. Built-in: The current article introduces a demo solution for the built-in audio hardware.

by szantog 10y ago

andrewstuart2 10y ago

A brief skim of the article they link regarding Marshmallow [1] provides this quote: > As readers may recall, 10ms round-trip audio latency is the threshold that must be met by Android to be considered truly 'pro audio'. This wasn't possible before Marshmallow (per aforementioned article), and therefore pro-quality audio apps are still only truly possible on 10% of Android devices. So the market is opened up for 100 million devices. I'm not saying it's not a huge number of devices. But it's not as huge as the blog states. [1] http://superpowered.com/superpowered-android-media-server http://superpowered.com/superpowered-android-media-server

JohnTHaller 10y ago
It's open to more of them the 10% that currently have it. Whether the OEM provides a build of Android Marshmallow or not plays a roll for most consumers. Quite a few consumers have the option to unlock their device and bypass the OEM to get Android Marshmallow on their device (Cyanogen et al).
szantog 10y ago
I'm one of the authors of the article, and the CTO of Superpowered. I apologize if the article was confusing. Marshmallow improves audio latency here and there on some devices, but even Android N has the fundamental audio stack problems we mention in the articles. There is no Android version delivering <= 10 ms round-trip audio latency. Audio can be handled by built-in hardware or external (USB) hardware. External: Android is not able to deliver glitch-free low latency audio on USB devices. We introduced a solution for this last month, that's one of the links on the top of the article. It opens up a market of 1.1 billion devices (meaning, Android 4.4.4 and up) for USB audio on Android. Built-in: The current article introduces a demo solution for the built-in audio hardware.