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> because I don't have the desire right now to code all day and then code some more Tell me about it. Speaking only for myself, I have near-constant coder's gu

by doktrin 10y ago

> because I don't have the desire right now to code all day and then code some more Tell me about it. Speaking only for myself, I have near-constant coder's guilt - a term I just made up to describe the nagging voice in my head that keeps telling me I should be coding more in my free time. It sounds something like this : "somewhere a rockstar wizard ninja is writing a C compiler in Haskell and here you are wasting your time with Overwatch, you miserable slacker"

mod 10y ago
Mine is even a little more annoying than yours. It doesn't like me doing productive things. "somewhere a rockstar wizard ninja is building a passive-income side project and here you are wasting your time tending a garden and working in your woodshop, you miserable idiot with stupid priorities."
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  > tending a garden and working in your woodshop After doing tech for 15 years, that sounds glorious.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    Have you ever weeded a garden for a summer? It's quite a chore.
    - toomuchtodo 10y ago
      Have you ever spent days fighting poor decisions you'll end up accountable for through no fault of your own? Gardening and woodshop please.
eterm 10y ago
I suffer from this badly, I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that I'm just not that good at any of it. I get the basics, I even do it for a living, but I'm never going to be driven to create products. I want to be able to make something, I also really want to be able to finish my progress on cryptopals, or finally get a real bounty on hackerone, but I'm just not good enough. And I get caught thinking, well if I just didn't spend so much time playing computer games, or wasting time I could do that stuff. But is it true, or am I just using them as an excuse, so I don't have to face up to the fact I'm just not that good at it. It's easier to blame my laziness than blame the fact that I struggle to produce output and struggle to find meaningful[1] vulnerabilities. If I ever do find myself unemployed, then I'd hit stockfighter up straight away, that would I guess give me the motivation to work at the stuff. I think there's a fundamental "understanding gap" between me at the problems presented though. In the same way that I can look at a demo scene write ups and understand the concepts they're talking about but there's this vast chasm between the work I do and the work they do, and it's not clear how to bridge that gap. Maybe I should read less hacker news and spend more time practicing the craft. But hey, I'm back in the "if only I worked harder" trap. [1] Sure, I can find open redirects, maybe the occasional http subdomain leaking a cookie from the https root domain, maybe even an open endpoint, but finding vulns worth paying for[2] is difficult when dealing with sites which already care enough to have bounties. [2] It's not about the money, I'd likely not even claim it given the typically small amounts paid out and the hassle of declaring it, but I'd like to bag a bounty for pride sake.
wdmeldon 10y ago
> you are wasting your time with Overwatch No time spent playing Overwatch is time wasted.
tinco 10y ago
Hi man, I just interrupted my game of Overwatch because a colleague pointed me to this comment. My C compiler in Haskell is located here: https://github.com/tinco/nanc https://github.com/tinco/nanc it's not fully functional yet, but will be soon ;) Also, just got owned by a team with 3 tracers :( edit: Just read what this thread is about. I really like to program, so much so that I usually find an hour or two per day to code (not every day, check my github streak if you want) Usually it's between 11pm and 1am, after dinner, after a movie with my partner, when she's playing a video game or watching a series, I do some coding. So I also play video games or watch movies. I like competitive games, mostly SC2, DotA and now Overwatch, but I don't worry about my MMR the way I used to when I played over an hour per day. Compared to achieving a high MMR building a ninja rockstar software project like a C compiler in Haskell is easy. Who is going to compete with me? It's a crazy idea anyway! I just work on it a couple hours per week, and after a year or two it'll be an impressive project no matter what. It's got everything I learned in it. Regaining the MMR I had in SC2 back in University will take me months of hard practice, but when I feel like continuing my C compiler, the commits are still there. The C compiler stems from a deep passion I have and a deep frustration I feel with the state of the art, that's why even if I don't dev on it for a few months, I'll go back to it eventually and continue. So... I can relax and play Overwatch for an hour or two, no worries. (Overwatch is much more forgiving than SC2 or DotA btw.)
- doktrin 10y ago
  > Hi man, I just interrupted my game of Overwatch because a colleague pointed me to this comment. My C compiler in Haskell is located here: https://github.com/tinco/nanc https://github.com/tinco/nanc it's not fully functional yet, but will be soon ;) Also, just got owned by a team with 3 tracers :( Haha what an unexpectedly fantastic response. Kudos on your cool side project, and triple Tracers sounds like the pinnacle of frustration :P (is this a new meta? I was just watching a top tier EU game where one team rolled 3 tracers + 2 winstons) > Overwatch is much more forgiving than SC2 or DotA btw Couldn't agree more. I personally find SC2 almost too stressful to play competitively these days (as a 30 year old fogey), and the match length of your typical MOBA is also a major turn off for a casual like me. > So I also play video games or watch movies. I like competitive games, mostly SC2, DotA and now Overwatch, but I don't worry about my MMR the way I used to when I played over an hour per day. Compared to achieving a high MMR building a ninja rockstar software project like a C compiler in Haskell is easy. Who is going to compete with me? It's a crazy idea anyway! I just work on it a couple hours per week, and after a year or two it'll be an impressive project no matter what. It's got everything I learned in it. I'll be using your experience for inspiration. I also love coding - particularly once I get started - but lack the discipline to make a habit out of it in my spare time. Hopefully in a few months I'll have some similarly interesting work to show for myself :)

by doktrin 10y ago

mod 10y ago

Mine is even a little more annoying than yours. It doesn't like me doing productive things. "somewhere a rockstar wizard ninja is building a passive-income side project and here you are wasting your time tending a garden and working in your woodshop, you miserable idiot with stupid priorities."

toomuchtodo 10y ago
> tending a garden and working in your woodshop After doing tech for 15 years, that sounds glorious.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Have you ever weeded a garden for a summer? It's quite a chore.
  - toomuchtodo 10y ago
    Have you ever spent days fighting poor decisions you'll end up accountable for through no fault of your own? Gardening and woodshop please.

eterm 10y ago

I suffer from this badly, I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that I'm just not that good at any of it. I get the basics, I even do it for a living, but I'm never going to be driven to create products. I want to be able to make something, I also really want to be able to finish my progress on cryptopals, or finally get a real bounty on hackerone, but I'm just not good enough. And I get caught thinking, well if I just didn't spend so much time playing computer games, or wasting time I could do that stuff. But is it true, or am I just using them as an excuse, so I don't have to face up to the fact I'm just not that good at it. It's easier to blame my laziness than blame the fact that I struggle to produce output and struggle to find meaningful[1] vulnerabilities. If I ever do find myself unemployed, then I'd hit stockfighter up straight away, that would I guess give me the motivation to work at the stuff. I think there's a fundamental "understanding gap" between me at the problems presented though. In the same way that I can look at a demo scene write ups and understand the concepts they're talking about but there's this vast chasm between the work I do and the work they do, and it's not clear how to bridge that gap. Maybe I should read less hacker news and spend more time practicing the craft. But hey, I'm back in the "if only I worked harder" trap. [1] Sure, I can find open redirects, maybe the occasional http subdomain leaking a cookie from the https root domain, maybe even an open endpoint, but finding vulns worth paying for[2] is difficult when dealing with sites which already care enough to have bounties. [2] It's not about the money, I'd likely not even claim it given the typically small amounts paid out and the hassle of declaring it, but I'd like to bag a bounty for pride sake.

wdmeldon 10y ago

> you are wasting your time with Overwatch No time spent playing Overwatch is time wasted.

tinco 10y ago

Hi man, I just interrupted my game of Overwatch because a colleague pointed me to this comment. My C compiler in Haskell is located here: https://github.com/tinco/nanc https://github.com/tinco/nanc it's not fully functional yet, but will be soon ;) Also, just got owned by a team with 3 tracers :( edit: Just read what this thread is about. I really like to program, so much so that I usually find an hour or two per day to code (not every day, check my github streak if you want) Usually it's between 11pm and 1am, after dinner, after a movie with my partner, when she's playing a video game or watching a series, I do some coding. So I also play video games or watch movies. I like competitive games, mostly SC2, DotA and now Overwatch, but I don't worry about my MMR the way I used to when I played over an hour per day. Compared to achieving a high MMR building a ninja rockstar software project like a C compiler in Haskell is easy. Who is going to compete with me? It's a crazy idea anyway! I just work on it a couple hours per week, and after a year or two it'll be an impressive project no matter what. It's got everything I learned in it. Regaining the MMR I had in SC2 back in University will take me months of hard practice, but when I feel like continuing my C compiler, the commits are still there. The C compiler stems from a deep passion I have and a deep frustration I feel with the state of the art, that's why even if I don't dev on it for a few months, I'll go back to it eventually and continue. So... I can relax and play Overwatch for an hour or two, no worries. (Overwatch is much more forgiving than SC2 or DotA btw.)

doktrin 10y ago
> Hi man, I just interrupted my game of Overwatch because a colleague pointed me to this comment. My C compiler in Haskell is located here: https://github.com/tinco/nanc https://github.com/tinco/nanc it's not fully functional yet, but will be soon ;) Also, just got owned by a team with 3 tracers :( Haha what an unexpectedly fantastic response. Kudos on your cool side project, and triple Tracers sounds like the pinnacle of frustration :P (is this a new meta? I was just watching a top tier EU game where one team rolled 3 tracers + 2 winstons) > Overwatch is much more forgiving than SC2 or DotA btw Couldn't agree more. I personally find SC2 almost too stressful to play competitively these days (as a 30 year old fogey), and the match length of your typical MOBA is also a major turn off for a casual like me. > So I also play video games or watch movies. I like competitive games, mostly SC2, DotA and now Overwatch, but I don't worry about my MMR the way I used to when I played over an hour per day. Compared to achieving a high MMR building a ninja rockstar software project like a C compiler in Haskell is easy. Who is going to compete with me? It's a crazy idea anyway! I just work on it a couple hours per week, and after a year or two it'll be an impressive project no matter what. It's got everything I learned in it. I'll be using your experience for inspiration. I also love coding - particularly once I get started - but lack the discipline to make a habit out of it in my spare time. Hopefully in a few months I'll have some similarly interesting work to show for myself :)