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FWIW anyone can get a /22 from RIPE right now. Just need to pay that 1500 euro membership. Not that a /22 is huge but it beats dealing with sketchy people.

by scurvy 10y ago

ryanlm 10y ago
How exactly does one buy IP addresses? Do you have to run your own BGP instance and peer with others? Could I, for personal use by a /22 and control my own network? How much does that cost to do?
- scurvy 10y ago
  First you need to get a ASN. Not hard these days with 4 byte AS support. NRC and yearly fees for this. Next you need to either get a direct allocation from a RIR (RIPE, ARIN, APNIC, etc) or buy/transfer IP's from another party. Depending on the IP's history, it may or may not be subject to transfer regulations (showing a need for it). Once you've got an AS and IP's, you can advertise them out multiple ISP's with BGP. If you've only got a single provider, you can have them announce it for you and statically route it to your side of the interface.
rhizome 10y ago
Not exactly "anyone," you have to demonstrate a need for a /22 without lying.
- scurvy 10y ago
  No. Not true. All RIPE participants can get another /22 right now. [0] "We are now allocating from our last /8 block of IPv4 address space. This means that LIRs can request one final /22 IPv4 allocation (1,024 addresses) from the RIPE NCC." It's part of RIPE's IPv4 depletion playbook. They're in the 'you can't get anything larger than a /22, but everyone gets one last /22' phase. [0] https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/request-an-ipv4-22-from-the-last-8 https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/request-an-ipv...
  - rhizome 10y ago
    I was responding to the assertion that "anybody" can get a /22 from RIPE right now.
    - scurvy 10y ago
      Anyone can join RIPE and get another /22 now. How is that not clear?
      - rhizome 10y ago
        I don't know how much of an impediment it is, but doesn't the link itself say you have to already have an ipv6 block? https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-622#51 https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-622#51 Anyway, I think I started all of this with a semantic quibble.

FWIW anyone can get a /22 from RIPE right now. Just need to pay that 1500 euro membership. Not that a /22 is huge but it beats dealing with sketchy people.

by scurvy 10y ago

FWIW anyone can get a /22 from RIPE right now. Just need to pay that 1500 euro membership. Not that a /22 is huge but it beats dealing with sketchy people.

ryanlm 10y ago

How exactly does one buy IP addresses? Do you have to run your own BGP instance and peer with others? Could I, for personal use by a /22 and control my own network? How much does that cost to do?

scurvy 10y ago
First you need to get a ASN. Not hard these days with 4 byte AS support. NRC and yearly fees for this. Next you need to either get a direct allocation from a RIR (RIPE, ARIN, APNIC, etc) or buy/transfer IP's from another party. Depending on the IP's history, it may or may not be subject to transfer regulations (showing a need for it). Once you've got an AS and IP's, you can advertise them out multiple ISP's with BGP. If you've only got a single provider, you can have them announce it for you and statically route it to your side of the interface.

rhizome 10y ago

Not exactly "anyone," you have to demonstrate a need for a /22 without lying.

scurvy 10y ago
No. Not true. All RIPE participants can get another /22 right now. [0] "We are now allocating from our last /8 block of IPv4 address space. This means that LIRs can request one final /22 IPv4 allocation (1,024 addresses) from the RIPE NCC." It's part of RIPE's IPv4 depletion playbook. They're in the 'you can't get anything larger than a /22, but everyone gets one last /22' phase. [0] https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/request-an-ipv4-22-from-the-last-8 https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/request-an-ipv...
- rhizome 10y ago
  I was responding to the assertion that "anybody" can get a /22 from RIPE right now.
  - scurvy 10y ago
    Anyone can join RIPE and get another /22 now. How is that not clear?
    - rhizome 10y ago
      I don't know how much of an impediment it is, but doesn't the link itself say you have to already have an ipv6 block? https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-622#51 https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-622#51 Anyway, I think I started all of this with a semantic quibble.