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"Tom, whats frustrating for me is I feel like my partner and I exhibited all those attributes. We don't think its the team, we know our team is strong. So it mu

"Tom, whats frustrating for me is I feel like my partner and I exhibited all those attributes. We don't think its the team, we know our team is strong. So it must be the idea: they aren't getting it." I bet you 90% of the YC rejects feel this way. I mean, really, what makes you think you're different from anyone else? The point isn't that you're the same. The point is that you have you consider that everyone is putting their best foot forward and has the confidence in themselves and their idea to try out for this program. Maybe they didn't get it... but then I'd say that's more your fault than theirs. You have to be able to convey your idea as easily and simply as possible.

coryl 17y ago
I know most of everyone rejected feels the same way as I do. I can't speak for anyone else application, but I know my team is smart and determined and has the evidence to show for it. I think the frustration lies is not knowing where we went wrong (which PG actually wrote a little essay about; sometimes there is no reason. Maybe its just a numbers game). Also, I'm not blaming YC for not getting the idea. I know it has to be clear and concise. I worked pretty hard to make it clear, which is why I solicited the help of 3 YC alumni in reviewing the application.
- freshfunk 17y ago
  I thought about it more and I think it's better that YC doesn't give more feedback other than "no." Think about it. Let's say they said, "Your team was too weak." What's the result of that going to be? It's going to be ugly and messy. What if they said, "Your idea is too weak." Then you'd probably email PG yourself on why your idea is not weak with the following proof why. Same goes if he said there's no market for it. Basically anything they say can result in a lot of backlash and the blame game when maybe the reason was that it was a little bit of everything.
  - coryl 17y ago
    Thats one way of looking at it. I like to learn and improve from my mistakes and failures. If he said those things, sure I'd try to refute them and convince him. But eventually I'd look at the criticisms in a more critical manner. I'm not above anyone's feedback or advice.
_pius 17y ago
I mean, really, what makes you think you're different from anyone else? Probably the same thing that makes you want to start a startup in the first place.
- freshfunk 17y ago
  Agreed but it's a rhetorical point. Fact is that 90% of the people applied feel the same way and a good percentage are probably just as smart and motivated as you (if not more so). If you went to a top tier school and majored in something the school is good at, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

coryl 17y ago

I know most of everyone rejected feels the same way as I do. I can't speak for anyone else application, but I know my team is smart and determined and has the evidence to show for it. I think the frustration lies is not knowing where we went wrong (which PG actually wrote a little essay about; sometimes there is no reason. Maybe its just a numbers game). Also, I'm not blaming YC for not getting the idea. I know it has to be clear and concise. I worked pretty hard to make it clear, which is why I solicited the help of 3 YC alumni in reviewing the application.

freshfunk 17y ago
I thought about it more and I think it's better that YC doesn't give more feedback other than "no." Think about it. Let's say they said, "Your team was too weak." What's the result of that going to be? It's going to be ugly and messy. What if they said, "Your idea is too weak." Then you'd probably email PG yourself on why your idea is not weak with the following proof why. Same goes if he said there's no market for it. Basically anything they say can result in a lot of backlash and the blame game when maybe the reason was that it was a little bit of everything.
- coryl 17y ago
  Thats one way of looking at it. I like to learn and improve from my mistakes and failures. If he said those things, sure I'd try to refute them and convince him. But eventually I'd look at the criticisms in a more critical manner. I'm not above anyone's feedback or advice.

_pius 17y ago

I mean, really, what makes you think you're different from anyone else? Probably the same thing that makes you want to start a startup in the first place.

freshfunk 17y ago
Agreed but it's a rhetorical point. Fact is that 90% of the people applied feel the same way and a good percentage are probably just as smart and motivated as you (if not more so). If you went to a top tier school and majored in something the school is good at, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.