That's the most insidious part: it is subtle. We cannot definitively say one thing or another, which is why I'm asking ANYBODY from a.viary.com to show the YC.

That's the most insidious part: it is subtle. We cannot definitively say one thing or another, which is why I'm asking ANYBODY from a.viary.com to show the YC.News community something substantial. For example: send an invite to somebody of high reputation at Digg/reddit/YC.News and have them spread the word. This is a simple strategy that not only will help a.viary.com but will also lend tremendous credibility to their development efforts, not to mention future potential. I think the best example of my cynicism is tagsy.com: http://tagsy.com http://tagsy.com vs. http://web.archive.org/web/*/tagsy.com http://web.archive.org/web/*/tagsy.com Notice any similarities with streamy.com and the old tagsy.com? I'm willing to bet streamy.com is total vaporware. They've had enough time to get beta testers and lend some credibility to the notion that they are not vaporware; especially given the fact that the Streamy demo on YouTube looked like a finished product! I have not seen the Aviary demo (where I work blocks YouTube), but I'm willing to bet that it looks like they've got something on the verge of being released (or in other words it is as impressive/polished as Streamy's demo on YouTube).