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One of the problems with weapons in the AR 15 class is that they are very commonly converted to fully automatic. I cannot say if any recent mass shooting has fe

by jccloud 10y ago

One of the problems with weapons in the AR 15 class is that they are very commonly converted to fully automatic. I cannot say if any recent mass shooting has featured such a gun, but a few of the Bundy militants in NV/OR were cited for possession of them, or bragged about possessing them on social media and forums. Perhaps I just live in an unfortunate part of Texas, but I know a number of people who have performed the mod on theirs… and frankly, among the people I know, these were already there people I was last comfortable knowing owned any firearms at all...

novembermike 10y ago
Is this a real issue? I can't think of any mass shootings where a rifle was illegally modified to be full auto.
- jonstokes 10y ago
  You are correct. Nobody is getting gunned down by full auto here in the US. Now, some terrorist yahoo may yet change that before I'm done typing this reply, but as of now the number of people who've been killed by civilian full auto fire since the NFA ban is in the low single digits last I checked.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    Even then, they could just as easily be brought in through mexico or other means as conversion of other arms here.
LyndsySimon 10y ago
> One of the problems with weapons in the AR 15 class is that they are very commonly converted to fully automatic. Citation, please? I'm not aware of ANY AR-15 being converted to automatic and being used in a mass shooting. In fact, outside of a handful of "militia types", I can't think of any at all. The closest thing off the top of my head would be the West Hollywood Shootout back in the 90s, but I believe they used illegally-converted AKs, not ARs. > Perhaps I just live in an unfortunate part of Texas, but I know a number of people who have performed the mod on theirs… and frankly, among the people I know, these were already there people I was last comfortable knowing owned any firearms at all... You know a number of people who have committed a federal felony? I'm a huge gun nut and have literally hundreds of friends with large gun collections and know of no one who has manufactured an illegal machinegun. I guess you run with a rougher crowd...
WTFdude143 10y ago
Wait what? I created an account just to contest this. I've never ever met a single person who openly admitted to committing a felony my modifying their firearm into an illegal machine gun. I would most certainly not call that common and I think either you're around the very small minority or full of it. That modification (illegally done) carries a penalty of 10 years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines. I seriously doubt you know people openly willing to share information that could invoke those kind of consequences.

by jccloud 10y ago

novembermike 10y ago

Is this a real issue? I can't think of any mass shootings where a rifle was illegally modified to be full auto.

jonstokes 10y ago
You are correct. Nobody is getting gunned down by full auto here in the US. Now, some terrorist yahoo may yet change that before I'm done typing this reply, but as of now the number of people who've been killed by civilian full auto fire since the NFA ban is in the low single digits last I checked.
- tracker1 10y ago
  Even then, they could just as easily be brought in through mexico or other means as conversion of other arms here.

LyndsySimon 10y ago

> One of the problems with weapons in the AR 15 class is that they are very commonly converted to fully automatic. Citation, please? I'm not aware of ANY AR-15 being converted to automatic and being used in a mass shooting. In fact, outside of a handful of "militia types", I can't think of any at all. The closest thing off the top of my head would be the West Hollywood Shootout back in the 90s, but I believe they used illegally-converted AKs, not ARs. > Perhaps I just live in an unfortunate part of Texas, but I know a number of people who have performed the mod on theirs… and frankly, among the people I know, these were already there people I was last comfortable knowing owned any firearms at all... You know a number of people who have committed a federal felony? I'm a huge gun nut and have literally hundreds of friends with large gun collections and know of no one who has manufactured an illegal machinegun. I guess you run with a rougher crowd...

WTFdude143 10y ago

Wait what? I created an account just to contest this. I've never ever met a single person who openly admitted to committing a felony my modifying their firearm into an illegal machine gun. I would most certainly not call that common and I think either you're around the very small minority or full of it. That modification (illegally done) carries a penalty of 10 years in prison and up to $250,000 in fines. I seriously doubt you know people openly willing to share information that could invoke those kind of consequences.