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I think you're probably a reasonable guy, and you've gotten your wires crossed, so please go back and read the article again, because nothing in the following p

I think you're probably a reasonable guy, and you've gotten your wires crossed, so please go back and read the article again, because nothing in the following paragraph is a response to anything I claimed in the piece or actually think: "The Henry rifle thing. During the Civil War period and up until WW2, military rifles and hunting rifles were basically designed with the same goal: shooting and hitting things at range. During WW2 people noticed that most person to person combat was actually at close range, and rifles were mostly used for suppression fire. Rifles like the AR-15 were designed for this close range combat scenario - which is exactly like most mass shootings. Yes, you can use an AR-15 for hunting - they are pretty good at killing things, but that doesn't make it a hunting rifle."

nl 10y ago
I think it does. Your argument is that the AR-15 is the modern equivalent to the Henry rifle, which is true. But modern combat rifles are designed for different goals (killing quickly at close range), which isn't the use case for hunting. You argue that police use makes it legitimate, but this is exactly wrong: police use it for the same reason the military do: killing quickly at close range. Yes, the modularity of the AR-15 means you can adapt to to do other things. That isn't a strength from the point of view of stopping mass killings though.
- WTFdude143 10y ago
  AR-15s can be used for long range weapons. 5.56 is effective out to 600 yards. You can even use a different caliber in it like 6.5mm Grendel which is a 1000 yard round. So you can most certainly use it for rapid follow up shots at long ranges while hunting.
brudgers 10y ago
Grandpa didn't talk about what he shot at German's and Italians. It wasn't lever action. Mostly, he dealt with that experience via anti-depressants and a lot of alcohol over the last 50 years of his life. He left a snub nosed .38 when he died. At least he didn't shoot himself. Grandpa was a Sergent in the 504st PIR from 1942 through 46. North Africa, Sicily, the boot and a walk from Ardennes into Germany. Went to Ohio State on the GI Bill and didn't cotton bullshit. His name was Bernard Worthington Jamison. Charitably, it seems the article contains a substantial misidentification.

nl 10y ago

I think it does. Your argument is that the AR-15 is the modern equivalent to the Henry rifle, which is true. But modern combat rifles are designed for different goals (killing quickly at close range), which isn't the use case for hunting. You argue that police use makes it legitimate, but this is exactly wrong: police use it for the same reason the military do: killing quickly at close range. Yes, the modularity of the AR-15 means you can adapt to to do other things. That isn't a strength from the point of view of stopping mass killings though.

WTFdude143 10y ago
AR-15s can be used for long range weapons. 5.56 is effective out to 600 yards. You can even use a different caliber in it like 6.5mm Grendel which is a 1000 yard round. So you can most certainly use it for rapid follow up shots at long ranges while hunting.

brudgers 10y ago

Grandpa didn't talk about what he shot at German's and Italians. It wasn't lever action. Mostly, he dealt with that experience via anti-depressants and a lot of alcohol over the last 50 years of his life. He left a snub nosed .38 when he died. At least he didn't shoot himself. Grandpa was a Sergent in the 504st PIR from 1942 through 46. North Africa, Sicily, the boot and a walk from Ardennes into Germany. Went to Ohio State on the GI Bill and didn't cotton bullshit. His name was Bernard Worthington Jamison. Charitably, it seems the article contains a substantial misidentification.