True, yet they can be and are in a lot of cases "perceived" as victimless or atleast neglible victimhood. (For ex: read iceberg slim and you get the sense that

True, yet they can be and are in a lot of cases "perceived" as victimless or atleast neglible victimhood. (For ex: read iceberg slim and you get the sense that for him the women were either better off with him(less poor) or just loved sex and drugs anyway they'd be prostitutes without him too.) Which I guess/believe was the point OP was making.