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Is it, though? In my experience YouTube (or is it the copyright owners?) are quite aggressive about scanning for unauthorised music and removing it - to the poi

Is it, though? In my experience YouTube (or is it the copyright owners?) are quite aggressive about scanning for unauthorised music and removing it - to the point where you actually have to be careful about things like having the radio on in the background during a video. In fact, they even provide tools to help you fix videos that have audio copyright claims against them... https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2902117?hl=en https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2902117?hl=en

overcast 10y ago
Yeh conveniently when YouTube started to have paid offerings, rentals, etc, they started cracking down on those pirated copies. Obvious is obvious on that one.
rayiner 10y ago
That's relatively recent. The early popularity of Youtube was built on offering streaming access to other peoples' content for free.
- magicalist 10y ago
  > That's relatively recent It's at least 7 years old[1] and the system itself (if not the name) is almost 9 years old[2]. That's not recent relative to just about anything. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-use-massacre https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/youtubes-copyright-filter-new-hurdle-fair-use https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/youtubes-copyright-fil...
  - whatok 10y ago
    Would Youtube even exist if it had to have something like Content ID when it first launched? Its existence definitely took advantage of the relative lawlessness of the web back then. Don't see much difference between how Youtube established vs Uber/AirBnB as far as break shit and pay for it later goes.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    That's also a token effort. While many clips were affected by this, you can still (and could always) find almost anything, uploaded pirated, on the first try -- from songs and shows to whole movies. The main exception is for 1-2 very vigilant artists (e.g. can't easily find non-officially uploaded Dylan tracks that are not bootlegs).
drzaiusapelord 10y ago
That's quite an undertaking and only huge organizations like the record and movie companies can really pull that trick off. Youtube is full of copyright violations of smaller production companies without this kind of infrastructure. Kid's show are pretty bad. I can put anything on for my son via youtube, when its pretty obvious those are not official channels and those very same episodes are $5 rentals on any other service.

overcast 10y ago

Yeh conveniently when YouTube started to have paid offerings, rentals, etc, they started cracking down on those pirated copies. Obvious is obvious on that one.

rayiner 10y ago

That's relatively recent. The early popularity of Youtube was built on offering streaming access to other peoples' content for free.

magicalist 10y ago
> That's relatively recent It's at least 7 years old[1] and the system itself (if not the name) is almost 9 years old[2]. That's not recent relative to just about anything. [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-use-massacre https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/01/youtubes-january-fair-... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/youtubes-copyright-filter-new-hurdle-fair-use https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/youtubes-copyright-fil...
- whatok 10y ago
  Would Youtube even exist if it had to have something like Content ID when it first launched? Its existence definitely took advantage of the relative lawlessness of the web back then. Don't see much difference between how Youtube established vs Uber/AirBnB as far as break shit and pay for it later goes.
- coldtea 10y ago
  That's also a token effort. While many clips were affected by this, you can still (and could always) find almost anything, uploaded pirated, on the first try -- from songs and shows to whole movies. The main exception is for 1-2 very vigilant artists (e.g. can't easily find non-officially uploaded Dylan tracks that are not bootlegs).

drzaiusapelord 10y ago

That's quite an undertaking and only huge organizations like the record and movie companies can really pull that trick off. Youtube is full of copyright violations of smaller production companies without this kind of infrastructure. Kid's show are pretty bad. I can put anything on for my son via youtube, when its pretty obvious those are not official channels and those very same episodes are $5 rentals on any other service.