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The idea that there is an ideal place for everyone in capitalism and be able to pay for all the costs of day to day life is some kind of libertarian hacker news
by dismal2 10y ago
The idea that there is an ideal place for everyone in capitalism and be able to pay for all the costs of day to day life is some kind of libertarian hacker news delusion.
- icebraining 10y agoI've never seen that idea around here, where did you?
- kmonsen 10y agoFor me it seems like hacker news loves universal basic income, because they understand this might not be true today and even less likely to be true in the future.
- dragonwriter 10y agoFor me, it seems like there are both ultra-capitalist libertarian (of the flavor that opposes any social support, including UBI) and pro-UBI constituencies active in hacker news, as well as others, but that neither viewpoint dominates HN. (Though opponents of those viewpoints, and others, will often describe the view they oppose as dominating HN, perhaps because they are more sensitized to what they oppose.)
- dismal2 10y agoI just think ubi is a panacea when we are really headed towards a cyberpunk dystopia were powerful corporations hold all the cards and the workers are reduced to a form of neo feudalism
- curun1r 10y agoReally? I think HN loves UBI because it presents the opportunity to try to build a company without the worry of having to figure out how to pay rent and put food on the table. It's a lot easier to take risks when you've got money, however small, coming in. When they called for research on UBI, everyone focused on what you're focusing on...the hubris that SV thinks it can automate everyone else's jobs. But the point I mention above is, to me, the more powerful one. Freeing people to follow their passions will enable people to give up their 9-5s without first having to save up. Creating a startup is a giant leap into the unknown with only the hope that you'll land safely. UBI is a parachute in case you miss your landing.