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We are currently subsidizing living in low density areas. The per capita cost of streets, sewer, etc. is much, much higher in the suburbs. We should at least s

We are currently subsidizing living in low density areas. The per capita cost of streets, sewer, etc. is much, much higher in the suburbs. We should at least stop the subsidies.

nitrogen 10y ago
Show me the line item on a bedroom community city's budget that says "subsidy from self-righteous city dwellers who don't realize the employees of the companies that pay taxes to the city commute from suburbs".
- pm90 10y ago
  This kind of attitude is not welcome on HN. We are a friendly community that welcomes different opinions/views which are debated in a professional way. Even so, here [0] is a recent HN article which does a very good job of explaining how suburbs are predicated on an (unsustainable) model of growth. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11638849 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11638849
  - nitrogen 10y ago
    Do you not see how the constant accusations against suburbanites of leeching off the cities is equally antagonistic? It happens frequently on HN -- someone might post about inefficiencies of suburbs for transportation (often, but not always true) or the use of water for growing food in rural areas, then a bunch of others will pile on with escalating disdain for non-city life. But because the escalation is gradual and the disdain is so popular here, nobody notices that they've slid into an endless pit of belittling the roots of millions of people.
    - pm90 10y ago
      I was referring to the way you made your point rather than your point itself. I apologize if I was not clear.
      - nitrogen 10y ago
        Yeah, occasionally I get a bit frustrated by this topic and it shows in the tone of my comments. Hopefully it illustrates the point, though, that there's a need for nuance and understanding on both sides.
- ajmurmann 10y ago
  I strongly recommend the episode of econtalk on this: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/05/charles_marohn.html http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/05/charles_marohn.html

We are currently subsidizing living in low density areas. The per capita cost of streets, sewer, etc. is much, much higher in the suburbs. We should at least stop the subsidies.

nitrogen 10y ago

Show me the line item on a bedroom community city's budget that says "subsidy from self-righteous city dwellers who don't realize the employees of the companies that pay taxes to the city commute from suburbs".

pm90 10y ago
This kind of attitude is not welcome on HN. We are a friendly community that welcomes different opinions/views which are debated in a professional way. Even so, here [0] is a recent HN article which does a very good job of explaining how suburbs are predicated on an (unsustainable) model of growth. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11638849 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11638849
- nitrogen 10y ago
  Do you not see how the constant accusations against suburbanites of leeching off the cities is equally antagonistic? It happens frequently on HN -- someone might post about inefficiencies of suburbs for transportation (often, but not always true) or the use of water for growing food in rural areas, then a bunch of others will pile on with escalating disdain for non-city life. But because the escalation is gradual and the disdain is so popular here, nobody notices that they've slid into an endless pit of belittling the roots of millions of people.
  - pm90 10y ago
    I was referring to the way you made your point rather than your point itself. I apologize if I was not clear.
    - nitrogen 10y ago
      Yeah, occasionally I get a bit frustrated by this topic and it shows in the tone of my comments. Hopefully it illustrates the point, though, that there's a need for nuance and understanding on both sides.
ajmurmann 10y ago
I strongly recommend the episode of econtalk on this: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/05/charles_marohn.html http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2014/05/charles_marohn.html