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>Kingdom of Saudi Arabia >between 10,000,000 to 25,000,000 https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors?category=%2410%2C000%2C001+to+%2425%2C000%2C000 http

>Kingdom of Saudi Arabia >between 10,000,000 to 25,000,000 https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors?category=%2410%2C000%2C001+to+%2425%2C000%2C000 https://www.clintonfoundation.org/contributors?category=%241... >"No actual proof" ok...

andrewl 10y ago
While I'm sure that a donation (especially a gigantic one) to the Clinton Foundation will help make the Clintons like you, it's not as though the Saudis gave the money to Hillary herself, or to her campaign. It went to the Clinton Foundation, whose work you can see in the Our Work menu at the top of that page.
- tyingq 10y ago
  There are ways to be creative about funneling money around. http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/ http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-founda... An excerpt: "The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid. The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends."
  - whamlastxmas 10y ago
    Exactly. The money is mostly spent on non-charitable things. For example, HTC needs a private jet to Ohio for a campaign speech. No problem, make a 5 minute speech while in Ohio for the foundation and you can expense it all to the foundation. Or have a huge staff who do fuck all for the foundation and spend 95% of their time on campaign work.
    - bruceb 10y ago
      And you have actual proof of this happening? Clinton foundation staff doing campaign work ?
      - whamlastxmas 10y ago
        It wasn't an accusation, it was an example of how there's zero accountability. However, here is some information: Katie Dowd: Previously a director at CF, now a director for HRC's campaign Cheryl Mills: On the board of CF, said by several sources to be working on HRC campaign Dennis Cheng: Previously served as chief development officer at the Clinton Foundation, is now campaign finance director BRUCE R LINDSEY: The campaign director for Bill Clinton, now the Chairman of the Board for Clinton Foundation. And obviously Cheslea, who works both with the CF and HRC's campaign. The list goes on. Feel free look at a list of officers etc on page 34 here: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_2014.pdf https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinto... and continue doing more searching to see how people working, or have previously worked, at the CF are now doing campaign work for HRC. This is obviously not proof that someone sitting in the Clinton Foundation office is doing campaign work during their 40 hours/week, but common sense would tell us, even from the very limited data above, that it is very probable to have happened at some point. Also interesting to note: In 2014, the foundation spent nearly $20 million travel while having only $80 million in salaries. That's a shit load of travel expense. They spent more in travel than they did actually providing direct assistance.
        bruceb 10y ago
        good detailed response. thanks.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    The Clinton Foundation isn't even in theory a grant-issuing direct-aid charity; its mainly a set of "initiatives", each of which is essentially a policy think-tank with a subject matter focus that actively partners with outside (of the Foundation) entities (often primarily governments at some level) to implement policy in its focal area.
    - tyingq 10y ago
      That would show up in "administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses"...the bulk of their expenditures. So it becomes a pretty grey area, fairly easy to funnel money around wherever you want.

andrewl 10y ago

While I'm sure that a donation (especially a gigantic one) to the Clinton Foundation will help make the Clintons like you, it's not as though the Saudis gave the money to Hillary herself, or to her campaign. It went to the Clinton Foundation, whose work you can see in the Our Work menu at the top of that page.

tyingq 10y ago
There are ways to be creative about funneling money around. http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-foundation-a-slush-fund/ http://nypost.com/2015/04/26/charity-watchdog-clinton-founda... An excerpt: "The Clinton family’s mega-charity took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid. The group spent the bulk of its windfall on administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family friends."
- whamlastxmas 10y ago
  Exactly. The money is mostly spent on non-charitable things. For example, HTC needs a private jet to Ohio for a campaign speech. No problem, make a 5 minute speech while in Ohio for the foundation and you can expense it all to the foundation. Or have a huge staff who do fuck all for the foundation and spend 95% of their time on campaign work.
  - bruceb 10y ago
    And you have actual proof of this happening? Clinton foundation staff doing campaign work ?
    - whamlastxmas 10y ago
      It wasn't an accusation, it was an example of how there's zero accountability. However, here is some information: Katie Dowd: Previously a director at CF, now a director for HRC's campaign Cheryl Mills: On the board of CF, said by several sources to be working on HRC campaign Dennis Cheng: Previously served as chief development officer at the Clinton Foundation, is now campaign finance director BRUCE R LINDSEY: The campaign director for Bill Clinton, now the Chairman of the Board for Clinton Foundation. And obviously Cheslea, who works both with the CF and HRC's campaign. The list goes on. Feel free look at a list of officers etc on page 34 here: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_report_public_2014.pdf https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinto... and continue doing more searching to see how people working, or have previously worked, at the CF are now doing campaign work for HRC. This is obviously not proof that someone sitting in the Clinton Foundation office is doing campaign work during their 40 hours/week, but common sense would tell us, even from the very limited data above, that it is very probable to have happened at some point. Also interesting to note: In 2014, the foundation spent nearly $20 million travel while having only $80 million in salaries. That's a shit load of travel expense. They spent more in travel than they did actually providing direct assistance.
      - bruceb 10y ago
        good detailed response. thanks.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  The Clinton Foundation isn't even in theory a grant-issuing direct-aid charity; its mainly a set of "initiatives", each of which is essentially a policy think-tank with a subject matter focus that actively partners with outside (of the Foundation) entities (often primarily governments at some level) to implement policy in its focal area.
  - tyingq 10y ago
    That would show up in "administration, travel, and salaries and bonuses"...the bulk of their expenditures. So it becomes a pretty grey area, fairly easy to funnel money around wherever you want.