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Solution: people: get the hell out of there. companies: make more remote job positions.

by pmlnr 10y ago

simonswords82 10y ago
I think remote job positions are the way forward. However, I think we're going to need an entire generation of management to get out of the way before BigCos in the city start to take this approach mainstream.
- jon-wood 10y ago
  Startups are somewhat more open to remote workers, but even then I've had to be in the office anywhere from twice a week to twice a month. My aim at some point is to completely remove the commute from my life, but at this rate I'm going to have to start my own company to do so.
rmc 10y ago
companies: if you don't want to do remote, then you have to pay more in salaries
- simonswords82 10y ago
  I know it's madness isn't it? That companies will pay a premium to have bums on seats in an expensive office in the middle of the most expensive cities in the world.
  - lmm 10y ago
    Maybe it's madness. Or maybe they actually get enough value out of it to be worth what they pay.
    - simonswords82 10y ago
      I suspect it's a little from column A and a little from column B. Not all employees can work remotely for sure, but I suspect if they were to audit the various teams they employ they could pick out some that can in fact work from home and save the company overhead in the process.
dejv 10y ago
It always amaze me, how companies at London resist remote work. I did returned back to Czech republic (want to be closer to family as I am having kids now) and jobs, once plenty, dried out very quickly, even when I am willing to commute to London biweekly and even willing to spend extended time there.
- robmcm 10y ago
  I assume it's because they could get a local developer in Eastern Europe, India or South America for a fraction of the London price. You want to have your cake and eat it ;) I work with people who commute from Europe 3/4 days a week, but then they have to factor in plane tickets, a small flat or room etc
  - dejv 10y ago
    I don't think it is about the price, maybe it is about the contractor market I was in, who knows. I don't really mind, there are tons of opportunities around. There are tons of companies willing to hire people remote all around EU, UK and US and the pay is basically same like London, not even factoring the living costs.

Solution: people: get the hell out of there. companies: make more remote job positions.

by pmlnr 10y ago

Solution: people: get the hell out of there. companies: make more remote job positions.

I think remote job positions are the way forward. However, I think we're going to need an entire generation of management to get out of the way before BigCos in the city start to take this approach mainstream.

jon-wood 10y ago
Startups are somewhat more open to remote workers, but even then I've had to be in the office anywhere from twice a week to twice a month. My aim at some point is to completely remove the commute from my life, but at this rate I'm going to have to start my own company to do so.

rmc 10y ago

companies: if you don't want to do remote, then you have to pay more in salaries

simonswords82 10y ago
I know it's madness isn't it? That companies will pay a premium to have bums on seats in an expensive office in the middle of the most expensive cities in the world.
- lmm 10y ago
  Maybe it's madness. Or maybe they actually get enough value out of it to be worth what they pay.
  - simonswords82 10y ago
    I suspect it's a little from column A and a little from column B. Not all employees can work remotely for sure, but I suspect if they were to audit the various teams they employ they could pick out some that can in fact work from home and save the company overhead in the process.

dejv 10y ago

It always amaze me, how companies at London resist remote work. I did returned back to Czech republic (want to be closer to family as I am having kids now) and jobs, once plenty, dried out very quickly, even when I am willing to commute to London biweekly and even willing to spend extended time there.

robmcm 10y ago
I assume it's because they could get a local developer in Eastern Europe, India or South America for a fraction of the London price. You want to have your cake and eat it ;) I work with people who commute from Europe 3/4 days a week, but then they have to factor in plane tickets, a small flat or room etc
- dejv 10y ago
  I don't think it is about the price, maybe it is about the contractor market I was in, who knows. I don't really mind, there are tons of opportunities around. There are tons of companies willing to hire people remote all around EU, UK and US and the pay is basically same like London, not even factoring the living costs.