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Or learn how to use the CLI client to connect. No need to install a awkward wrapper software layer.

by SeoxyS 10y ago

coldtea 10y ago
The "awkward wrapper software layer" has so many workflow enhancements and advantages over the ho-hum CLI client that it's not even funny.
smt88 10y ago
You seem to be a software developer who is advocating that people not automate something that's tedious (writing and running SELECT and UPDATE queries). Weird.
- 3legcat 10y ago
  You can automate with scripts. No need to use a fancy GUI for this.
  - smt88 10y ago
    And what if I don't want to write scripts because other people have already automated all common database browsing/editing tasks for me? What if I don't want to reinvent the wheel? With a GUI, you can click 3 times and browse 3 tables. That's just not possible without a GUI. If GUIs didn't save people (lots of) time, no one would have invented them and the software industry would be moving away from them. Besides being way faster and more efficient, GUIs do things that CLIs don't: - linting/error-checking/autocomplete for SQL - checking query sanity (warn before an unconstrained DELETE for example) - copy/paste data (within the database and between applications) - jump from FK cell to the row it references The list goes on.
    - codedokode 10y ago
      Scripted migrations have their advantages too: - they can be stored in a version control system - your coworkers can run them at their dev environment - they can be used for automatic deployment - you can test it in a dev environment before running at a production server. With GUI tools you have to remember and repeat exact steps you did before - You can review the script or ask someone to look at it I think GUI tools might be good for browsing and exploring database but not for making changes.
- forgottenpass 10y ago
  phpMyAdmin is not automation. It's a less-painful manual interface. Tedium in a GUI is still tedium.

Or learn how to use the CLI client to connect. No need to install a awkward wrapper software layer.

by SeoxyS 10y ago

Or learn how to use the CLI client to connect. No need to install a awkward wrapper software layer.

The "awkward wrapper software layer" has so many workflow enhancements and advantages over the ho-hum CLI client that it's not even funny.

smt88 10y ago

You seem to be a software developer who is advocating that people not automate something that's tedious (writing and running SELECT and UPDATE queries). Weird.

3legcat 10y ago
You can automate with scripts. No need to use a fancy GUI for this.
- smt88 10y ago
  And what if I don't want to write scripts because other people have already automated all common database browsing/editing tasks for me? What if I don't want to reinvent the wheel? With a GUI, you can click 3 times and browse 3 tables. That's just not possible without a GUI. If GUIs didn't save people (lots of) time, no one would have invented them and the software industry would be moving away from them. Besides being way faster and more efficient, GUIs do things that CLIs don't: - linting/error-checking/autocomplete for SQL - checking query sanity (warn before an unconstrained DELETE for example) - copy/paste data (within the database and between applications) - jump from FK cell to the row it references The list goes on.
  - codedokode 10y ago
    Scripted migrations have their advantages too: - they can be stored in a version control system - your coworkers can run them at their dev environment - they can be used for automatic deployment - you can test it in a dev environment before running at a production server. With GUI tools you have to remember and repeat exact steps you did before - You can review the script or ask someone to look at it I think GUI tools might be good for browsing and exploring database but not for making changes.
forgottenpass 10y ago
phpMyAdmin is not automation. It's a less-painful manual interface. Tedium in a GUI is still tedium.