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And those might be the same people, that were unlucky enough to have one tiny bad enough moment.

forgottenpass 10y ago
What about all the unlucky moments of misery and/or wanting to not exist but hovering just below the threshold of suicidal? Days? Months? Years? Decades? I wish society had the balls to tell the depressed they're obligated to stay here and run out the clock, but beyond that we don't really care how miserable they are. That we'll talk about talking about depression, but not actually talk about depression [0]. That's what a shrink is for, go get one so we don't have to deal with you being mopey (I guess it'll be positive for you, too). [0] http://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/116790700524/we-need-to-sing-about-mental-health http://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/116790700524/we-need-t...
- Swizec 10y ago
  As someone who used to be suicidal, I'm pretty glad I didn't do it. Sure life is still pointless and kind of meaningless, but I'm having a lot more fun than I would have if I was dead. Unexistence, while easier, doesn't sound nearly as fun. And besides, how will I ever achieve all those hopes and dreams I had as a 12 year old if I'm dead? I won't. But the longer I stay alive, the more likely it is. "Survive until tomorrow" is, in a sense, the only thing that matters. Or at least the thing that comes the closest to mattering.
  - Mz 10y ago
    Unexistence, while easier, doesn't sound nearly as fun. We do not actually know that Unexistence would be easier, nor whether or not it would be fun. I don't intend any disrespect at all. I have attempted suicide and spent plenty of time suicidal. So this is a conclusion I drew in earnestness. We have no means that I know of to investigate what comes after death, whether or not something survives the physical body, etc. Many people believe in religion and an afterlife or in reincarnation. Others believe nothing survives after the body dies. But, scientifically speaking, we do not actually know. I am glad you are no longer suicidal. Peace.
    - Swizec 10y ago
      I agree, we don't know what if anything comes after. But we do know what comes right now. So I figure, why risk it? It could be better, it could be worse, it could be nothing. I have no evidence either way so there's nothing to base the experiment on. And I know that eventually I will find out no matter what I do. So there really isn't anything to gain from suicide, imho. Better to stay alive as long as possible and do shit om this side. I also came to this conclusion after much thought.
  - prodmerc 10y ago
    Yeah I've somehow incorporated depression into my life. Suicide is now always a choice, I have a few plans if things go really, really bad. Things are also somewhat more interesting since if I'm anxious about something, I remember that hey, I am dead, whether its 50 years from now or tomorrow (I think Bushido had something similar?). Nothing really matters so stop worrying and try to enjoy the grind...

What about all the unlucky moments of misery and/or wanting to not exist but hovering just below the threshold of suicidal? Days? Months? Years? Decades? I wish society had the balls to tell the depressed they're obligated to stay here and run out the clock, but beyond that we don't really care how miserable they are. That we'll talk about talking about depression, but not actually talk about depression [0]. That's what a shrink is for, go get one so we don't have to deal with you being mopey (I guess it'll be positive for you, too). [0] http://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/116790700524/we-need-to-sing-about-mental-health http://hotelconcierge.tumblr.com/post/116790700524/we-need-t...

Swizec 10y ago
As someone who used to be suicidal, I'm pretty glad I didn't do it. Sure life is still pointless and kind of meaningless, but I'm having a lot more fun than I would have if I was dead. Unexistence, while easier, doesn't sound nearly as fun. And besides, how will I ever achieve all those hopes and dreams I had as a 12 year old if I'm dead? I won't. But the longer I stay alive, the more likely it is. "Survive until tomorrow" is, in a sense, the only thing that matters. Or at least the thing that comes the closest to mattering.
- Mz 10y ago
  Unexistence, while easier, doesn't sound nearly as fun. We do not actually know that Unexistence would be easier, nor whether or not it would be fun. I don't intend any disrespect at all. I have attempted suicide and spent plenty of time suicidal. So this is a conclusion I drew in earnestness. We have no means that I know of to investigate what comes after death, whether or not something survives the physical body, etc. Many people believe in religion and an afterlife or in reincarnation. Others believe nothing survives after the body dies. But, scientifically speaking, we do not actually know. I am glad you are no longer suicidal. Peace.
  - Swizec 10y ago
    I agree, we don't know what if anything comes after. But we do know what comes right now. So I figure, why risk it? It could be better, it could be worse, it could be nothing. I have no evidence either way so there's nothing to base the experiment on. And I know that eventually I will find out no matter what I do. So there really isn't anything to gain from suicide, imho. Better to stay alive as long as possible and do shit om this side. I also came to this conclusion after much thought.
- prodmerc 10y ago
  Yeah I've somehow incorporated depression into my life. Suicide is now always a choice, I have a few plans if things go really, really bad. Things are also somewhat more interesting since if I'm anxious about something, I remember that hey, I am dead, whether its 50 years from now or tomorrow (I think Bushido had something similar?). Nothing really matters so stop worrying and try to enjoy the grind...