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When I fail, I fail spectacularly. :) I knew coming in that it was overly ambitious (heck, my website stated that from the very first days), but I think that s

When I fail, I fail spectacularly. :) I knew coming in that it was overly ambitious (heck, my website stated that from the very first days), but I think that shooting for the stars was a good way to just explore the current limitations of tech and try to do things that no one else was doing - reason be damned. The best thing that happened was not something entirely tangible. I have witnessed the most beautiful side of humanity in my struggles (however trivial my struggles are in the global scope of the world).

lobster_johnson 10y ago
Like the other commenters, I definitely don't want any money back! Sad to hear of VQ's demise, but open-sourcing it sounds like a great idea.
abetusk 10y ago
I haven't contributed to the Patreon but have been following from the side lines. From my perspective, this isn't a failure at all. You've created high quality updates as you've progressed in your project and you're leaving the project open source for the community. I know that if I were to have given you money, I would feel entirely satisfied since you're giving your work back to the community. I can't wait to poke around the source. Thanks for hard work. Good luck at OpenAI!
- gavanwoolery 10y ago
  Thanks!
  - lemiffe 10y ago
    Same here, didn't contribute, but you are a great person, totally respect your decision; let's try to make this OS project a reality!
wlesieutre 10y ago
Stop trying to give my money back, I don't want it! VQ has been a fascinating project to watch, and I was always more interested in the tech than in any particular game that gets made with it. I'm happy to hear it'll be open sourced, and hopefully people will continue to push it forward! I've been meaning to pick up some C++ and graphics programming...
- cowpewter 10y ago
  Agreed, same here! I was in the Kickstarter, and I don't need my money back. I'd rather Gavan keep it, and not have some debt hanging over him. It's the nature of Kickstarter that not everything makes it. Honestly, I've gotten more out of my $30 just from the updates about the engine (and the fact that you're open sourcing it!) than I've gotten from a lot of the other Kickstarters I've backed.
  - gavanwoolery 10y ago
    I guess I have to thank the general outcome of Kickstarters for setting the bar low for me :)
    - wlesieutre 10y ago
      And that your engine is an outstanding piece of work! Maybe you've gotten used to it from having worked on this so much, but it's a breath of fresh air to see unusual approaches being pursued in a game engine. So much of the industry is dominated by either 3D triangle meshes or retro pixel art, and VQ has shown that these aren't the only ways forward.
      - kkirsche 10y ago
        Fully agreed. I'd rather someone innovate, be passionate yet fail than do the same old garbage (not literally, just so much stuff is cookie cutter these days) and "produce"
- gavanwoolery 10y ago
hesdeadjim 10y ago
When you fail, you fail gracefully. Much respect.
- gavanwoolery 10y ago
  Thanks :)
noonespecial 10y ago
I was one of the people who pledged $20. It caught my eye because it was a unique approach that I'd thought of myself in much less concise terms and told myself that I'd think more about or try "someday". Pledging was like outsourcing my someday to you! As I posted before: I don't want a cent back. I didn't pay for a "product", I paid to watch him try this novel approach to a game engine. Money well spent. Now "Transformers 3" on the other hand... I paid to watch that too. Michael Bay, you owe me $12 back for that stinker.
- MarkPNeyer 10y ago
  I'm in the same boat. I don't want a refund either. Just watching this dude create amazing work as satisfying enough. I do plan to tinker with this engine though....

lobster_johnson 10y ago

Like the other commenters, I definitely don't want any money back! Sad to hear of VQ's demise, but open-sourcing it sounds like a great idea.

abetusk 10y ago

I haven't contributed to the Patreon but have been following from the side lines. From my perspective, this isn't a failure at all. You've created high quality updates as you've progressed in your project and you're leaving the project open source for the community. I know that if I were to have given you money, I would feel entirely satisfied since you're giving your work back to the community. I can't wait to poke around the source. Thanks for hard work. Good luck at OpenAI!

gavanwoolery 10y ago
Thanks!
- lemiffe 10y ago
  Same here, didn't contribute, but you are a great person, totally respect your decision; let's try to make this OS project a reality!

wlesieutre 10y ago

Stop trying to give my money back, I don't want it! VQ has been a fascinating project to watch, and I was always more interested in the tech than in any particular game that gets made with it. I'm happy to hear it'll be open sourced, and hopefully people will continue to push it forward! I've been meaning to pick up some C++ and graphics programming...

cowpewter 10y ago
Agreed, same here! I was in the Kickstarter, and I don't need my money back. I'd rather Gavan keep it, and not have some debt hanging over him. It's the nature of Kickstarter that not everything makes it. Honestly, I've gotten more out of my $30 just from the updates about the engine (and the fact that you're open sourcing it!) than I've gotten from a lot of the other Kickstarters I've backed.
- gavanwoolery 10y ago
  I guess I have to thank the general outcome of Kickstarters for setting the bar low for me :)
  - wlesieutre 10y ago
    And that your engine is an outstanding piece of work! Maybe you've gotten used to it from having worked on this so much, but it's a breath of fresh air to see unusual approaches being pursued in a game engine. So much of the industry is dominated by either 3D triangle meshes or retro pixel art, and VQ has shown that these aren't the only ways forward.
    - kkirsche 10y ago
      Fully agreed. I'd rather someone innovate, be passionate yet fail than do the same old garbage (not literally, just so much stuff is cookie cutter these days) and "produce"
gavanwoolery 10y ago

hesdeadjim 10y ago

When you fail, you fail gracefully. Much respect.

gavanwoolery 10y ago
Thanks :)

noonespecial 10y ago

I was one of the people who pledged $20. It caught my eye because it was a unique approach that I'd thought of myself in much less concise terms and told myself that I'd think more about or try "someday". Pledging was like outsourcing my someday to you! As I posted before: I don't want a cent back. I didn't pay for a "product", I paid to watch him try this novel approach to a game engine. Money well spent. Now "Transformers 3" on the other hand... I paid to watch that too. Michael Bay, you owe me $12 back for that stinker.

MarkPNeyer 10y ago
I'm in the same boat. I don't want a refund either. Just watching this dude create amazing work as satisfying enough. I do plan to tinker with this engine though....