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I did not intend to make a connection between GMO tomatoes and herbicides. Reading what I wrote I can see how one would think that though, sorry for that. I tr
by lolc 10y ago
I did not intend to make a connection between GMO tomatoes and herbicides. Reading what I wrote I can see how one would think that though, sorry for that.
I tried to show of how the debate is distorted away from the things that are difficult to address. What are the consequences of introducing new pesticides in tomato plants? Will the bees survive that? How sensitive is our ecosystem to the ever increasing dosage of Glyphosate dumped into it?
We could deplore the fact that people turn these questions that cannot get answered into fears for their own safety. I rather think that we should try to answer the questions, and move very conservatively meanwhile. But that's not what I see. What I see instead is shills brushing off concerns with statements like "Plants have produced their own pesticides since basically ever, so there is nothing to worry about."
To come back to what you wrote, I do think that you try to actually inform, rather than just telling people that their fears are silly. Thanks for that. My complaints are not addressed at you.
- seattle_spring 10y ago> What I see instead is shills brushing off concerns with statements like "Plants have produced their own pesticides since basically ever, so there is nothing to worry about." Ah the shill gambit [1]. When you don't have any other leg to stand on, just KO the opponent's argument by accusing them of working for the enemy! [1] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shill_gambit http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shill_gambit
- lolc 10y agoWell, do you think that it is a valid argument? I'm tired of hearing it repeated like it's some kind of deep truth even though it equates entirely different processes. I will call people shills when they're not interested in answering hard questions. Today's XKCD has basically the same argument (http://xkcd.com/1693/ http://xkcd.com/1693/).