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This is huge! I can understand that they wouldn't want to devote a lot of time to it, but I can't believe this wasn't even mentioned in the keynote. It is a dev

by kylec 10y ago

This is huge! I can understand that they wouldn't want to devote a lot of time to it, but I can't believe this wasn't even mentioned in the keynote. It is a developer conference after all.

tjl 10y ago
They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.
- kylec 10y ago
  Where can I stream that?
  - masklinn 10y ago
    You probably can't. You couldn't any previous year AFAIK, though they publish the sessions online afterwards (an other commenter posted the 2015 one)
    - kylec 10y ago
      So essentially a big middle finger from Apple to anyone not attending the conference. Sigh.
      - judofyr 10y ago
        The fact that they publish the sessions online afterwards doesn't sound like a "big middle finger" to me. Is it that important to view it live?
      - TeMPOraL 10y ago
        Or, maintaining the feeling of exclusivity of the event.
      - deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
      - aethant 10y ago
        Do you attend a lot of paid conferences that stream live for free in real time? That must be cool.
        jamesjguthrie 10y ago
        Google I/O does.
        masklinn 10y ago
        I/O streams every session live?
        josso 10y ago
        No, they only streamed a single track live.
        masklinn 10y ago
        Well that's still pretty neat.
        pantalaimon 10y ago
        CCC does it
  - foothrowjdhdb 10y ago
    developer.apple.com @2:30 pst
  - skygazer 10y ago
    The WWDC app on HR new Apple TV has the live stream, starting shortly.
  - rarepostinlurkr 10y ago
    https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/live/#/ https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/live/#/. It's streaming there now.
  - porsupah 10y ago
    Here, though not available just yet: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/102/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/102/ Via the index for WWDC 2016 videos: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2016/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2016/
    - aardshark 10y ago
      "Streaming is available in Safari and through the WWDC app." ...is nobody else getting this message? Or am I just the only one who thinks this is bullshit? Here is a direct link to the mp4: http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2016/102w0bsn0ge83qfv7za/102/102_hd_platforms_state_of_the_union.mp4 http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2016/102w0bsn0ge83...
      - ascagnel_ 10y ago
        Apple's been using HTTP live streaming for a few years; to date, nobody else fully supports it (although Edge has some limited support). Twitch also has HTTPLS support; you can watch their streams in Safari without Flash installed.
        aardshark 10y ago
        Sure, but seeing as the live stream is over, you'd think they'd just autoplay the saved video instead. I didn't actually notice that there are links to the videos in the Resources tab, so I guess it's not as bad as I thought.
        wlesieutre 10y ago
        You can also open the HLS streams with VLC
- r2dnb 10y ago
  "Developer State of the Union", Jesus... you talk about a closed platform. I've never been able to stand these ecosystems where you need to attend state of the unions to know what will be deprecated and how the "establishment" has decided you would run your business (tools, etc...). I know there's good money to be made there but Apple is just too much for me.
  - eric_h 10y ago
    To be fair, you don't need to attend anything, just wait 24 hours and read all the blog posts.
    - tjl 10y ago
      Actually, they put up the videos on their site and you can watch them there or download them. So, complaining that you can't stream it is a really minor complaint. Plus, I tried to stream it on my Apple TV and it wasn't available to stream, so the complaint is completely invalid.
  - MrTonyD 10y ago
    If it's any consolation, I've been downvoted a bunch of times when I tell stories about my time working for Steve at NeXT. People just don't seem to like hearing things that disagree with whatever perspective they hold. (And Steve used to refer to our software as the "crown jewels" that needed to be kept secret at any cost - even if we lost business or bankrupted partners. Steve freely admitted that we would overcharge anybody who was naive enough to pay high prices. But people don't like to hear that - even though I was in many meetings with Steve where he said those things.) And I should add that I'm not anti-Apple. I think we need to be able to see people and companies clearly - warts and all. Otherwise, how can we react to the real world?
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      I think the problem you are facing is that you have made some pretty outlandish claims with some basis in fact but also with some embellishments as to your role in all this and that HN has a whole pile of old timers on board many of who might have been present as other parties to those very same happenings. Likely they have long ago figured out who you really are. That coupled with a hatred for rich people, the '1%' as you call them, and the fact that almost every major development in computing - according to you - in the last 20 years had your hand in it makes it hard to believe anything you say. Maybe just stick to the facts, leave out the embellishments. For instance 'your time at NeXT' was just a single year but if we're to believe your comments then you were the guy that singlehandedly saved NeXT, Apple, Linux and Oracle to boot and if it weren't for a small glitch in your thinking we might have had global internet some years earlier. It seems a bit much for one person, even if they've been quite active, Forrest Gump was fiction, not a biography.

by kylec 10y ago

This is huge! I can understand that they wouldn't want to devote a lot of time to it, but I can't believe this wasn't even mentioned in the keynote. It is a developer conference after all.

tjl 10y ago

They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.

kylec 10y ago
Where can I stream that?
- masklinn 10y ago
  You probably can't. You couldn't any previous year AFAIK, though they publish the sessions online afterwards (an other commenter posted the 2015 one)
  - kylec 10y ago
    So essentially a big middle finger from Apple to anyone not attending the conference. Sigh.
    - judofyr 10y ago
      The fact that they publish the sessions online afterwards doesn't sound like a "big middle finger" to me. Is it that important to view it live?
    - TeMPOraL 10y ago
      Or, maintaining the feeling of exclusivity of the event.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
    - aethant 10y ago
      Do you attend a lot of paid conferences that stream live for free in real time? That must be cool.
      - jamesjguthrie 10y ago
        Google I/O does.
        masklinn 10y ago
        I/O streams every session live?
        josso 10y ago
        No, they only streamed a single track live.
        masklinn 10y ago
        Well that's still pretty neat.
      - pantalaimon 10y ago
        CCC does it
- foothrowjdhdb 10y ago
  developer.apple.com @2:30 pst
- skygazer 10y ago
  The WWDC app on HR new Apple TV has the live stream, starting shortly.
- rarepostinlurkr 10y ago
  https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/live/#/ https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/live/#/. It's streaming there now.
- porsupah 10y ago
  Here, though not available just yet: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/102/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2016/102/ Via the index for WWDC 2016 videos: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2016/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2016/
  - aardshark 10y ago
    "Streaming is available in Safari and through the WWDC app." ...is nobody else getting this message? Or am I just the only one who thinks this is bullshit? Here is a direct link to the mp4: http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2016/102w0bsn0ge83qfv7za/102/102_hd_platforms_state_of_the_union.mp4 http://devstreaming.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2016/102w0bsn0ge83...
    - ascagnel_ 10y ago
      Apple's been using HTTP live streaming for a few years; to date, nobody else fully supports it (although Edge has some limited support). Twitch also has HTTPLS support; you can watch their streams in Safari without Flash installed.
      - aardshark 10y ago
        Sure, but seeing as the live stream is over, you'd think they'd just autoplay the saved video instead. I didn't actually notice that there are links to the videos in the Resources tab, so I guess it's not as bad as I thought.
      - wlesieutre 10y ago
        You can also open the HLS streams with VLC
r2dnb 10y ago
"Developer State of the Union", Jesus... you talk about a closed platform. I've never been able to stand these ecosystems where you need to attend state of the unions to know what will be deprecated and how the "establishment" has decided you would run your business (tools, etc...). I know there's good money to be made there but Apple is just too much for me.
- eric_h 10y ago
  To be fair, you don't need to attend anything, just wait 24 hours and read all the blog posts.
  - tjl 10y ago
    Actually, they put up the videos on their site and you can watch them there or download them. So, complaining that you can't stream it is a really minor complaint. Plus, I tried to stream it on my Apple TV and it wasn't available to stream, so the complaint is completely invalid.
- MrTonyD 10y ago
  If it's any consolation, I've been downvoted a bunch of times when I tell stories about my time working for Steve at NeXT. People just don't seem to like hearing things that disagree with whatever perspective they hold. (And Steve used to refer to our software as the "crown jewels" that needed to be kept secret at any cost - even if we lost business or bankrupted partners. Steve freely admitted that we would overcharge anybody who was naive enough to pay high prices. But people don't like to hear that - even though I was in many meetings with Steve where he said those things.) And I should add that I'm not anti-Apple. I think we need to be able to see people and companies clearly - warts and all. Otherwise, how can we react to the real world?
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    I think the problem you are facing is that you have made some pretty outlandish claims with some basis in fact but also with some embellishments as to your role in all this and that HN has a whole pile of old timers on board many of who might have been present as other parties to those very same happenings. Likely they have long ago figured out who you really are. That coupled with a hatred for rich people, the '1%' as you call them, and the fact that almost every major development in computing - according to you - in the last 20 years had your hand in it makes it hard to believe anything you say. Maybe just stick to the facts, leave out the embellishments. For instance 'your time at NeXT' was just a single year but if we're to believe your comments then you were the guy that singlehandedly saved NeXT, Apple, Linux and Oracle to boot and if it weren't for a small glitch in your thinking we might have had global internet some years earlier. It seems a bit much for one person, even if they've been quite active, Forrest Gump was fiction, not a biography.