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every engineer i ever met from EPIC was fresh out of school, one of them told me thats almost entirely what they hire.

by eonw 10y ago

logfromblammo 10y ago
And that's by design of the CEO, who explained (paraphrasing) that such people are far more eager to drink her personal flavor of the corporate Kool-Aid if they haven't already been tainted by tasting someone else's.
- fluxquanta 10y ago
  I'm glad you're reaffirming the thoughts I had back in 2010 when, after the phone screening, I was invited for an on-campus interview to which I said no after reading some scathing reviews online. I very distinctly remember it seeming a bit like a cult with the overbearing CEO that answers to no one creating a sprawling campus out in rural Wisconson that's so comfortable and with so many amenities you'd never want to leave! Sounds like I made the right choice to decline, even though I'm currently working for a private company with the same type of CEO, only with revenues at half of one percent of Epic. But hey, I read a couple of weeks ago that they were hiring a sushi chef, and I do love sushi!
  - logfromblammo 10y ago
    It's not exactly rural Wisconsin. It's effectively in a suburb on the the southwest side of Madison. Rural Wisconsin is at least a 15 minute walk from the parking lot. The Epic campus is very close to the epicenter of the best place for a typical HN reader in Wisconsin. Since the UW-Madison campus is on the west side of town, the geometry of the lakes almost assures that people who work in high tech businesses or academia commute in from the southwest quadrant, if they don't live in the city proper: Cross Plains, Middleton, Verona, Fitchburg, Oregon. I loved living in/near Madison for the 6 months of the year that it wasn't either winter or unsubtly hinting that Mr. Winter had only just stepped out for a moment, and would likely be back any minute now to finish hitting my other kneecap with a lead-free pipe and then drag me around on a chain behind his Prius for a bit. The immediate environs are great. But I had to leave for financial reasons. If you have the opportunity to take a job in Madison, Wisconsin, that is not with Epic, do consider it.
    - knightofmars 10y ago
      > If you have the opportunity to take a job in Madison, Wisconsin, that is not with Epic, do consider it. Shameless plug! https://forteresearch.com/ https://forteresearch.com/
    - throwawaysocks 10y ago
      6 months?! My experience was closer to 4, 5 in good years and 3 in bad. But summers were idyllic.
bduerst 10y ago
Again I definitely don't recommend it for engineers. They'll get locked in on their tech stack since that's their experience and no major tech company uses it anymore. For entry-level business roles they tend to be better suited, especially those looking to go the consulting route.

every engineer i ever met from EPIC was fresh out of school, one of them told me thats almost entirely what they hire.

by eonw 10y ago

every engineer i ever met from EPIC was fresh out of school, one of them told me thats almost entirely what they hire.

And that's by design of the CEO, who explained (paraphrasing) that such people are far more eager to drink her personal flavor of the corporate Kool-Aid if they haven't already been tainted by tasting someone else's.

fluxquanta 10y ago
I'm glad you're reaffirming the thoughts I had back in 2010 when, after the phone screening, I was invited for an on-campus interview to which I said no after reading some scathing reviews online. I very distinctly remember it seeming a bit like a cult with the overbearing CEO that answers to no one creating a sprawling campus out in rural Wisconson that's so comfortable and with so many amenities you'd never want to leave! Sounds like I made the right choice to decline, even though I'm currently working for a private company with the same type of CEO, only with revenues at half of one percent of Epic. But hey, I read a couple of weeks ago that they were hiring a sushi chef, and I do love sushi!
- logfromblammo 10y ago
  It's not exactly rural Wisconsin. It's effectively in a suburb on the the southwest side of Madison. Rural Wisconsin is at least a 15 minute walk from the parking lot. The Epic campus is very close to the epicenter of the best place for a typical HN reader in Wisconsin. Since the UW-Madison campus is on the west side of town, the geometry of the lakes almost assures that people who work in high tech businesses or academia commute in from the southwest quadrant, if they don't live in the city proper: Cross Plains, Middleton, Verona, Fitchburg, Oregon. I loved living in/near Madison for the 6 months of the year that it wasn't either winter or unsubtly hinting that Mr. Winter had only just stepped out for a moment, and would likely be back any minute now to finish hitting my other kneecap with a lead-free pipe and then drag me around on a chain behind his Prius for a bit. The immediate environs are great. But I had to leave for financial reasons. If you have the opportunity to take a job in Madison, Wisconsin, that is not with Epic, do consider it.
  - knightofmars 10y ago
    > If you have the opportunity to take a job in Madison, Wisconsin, that is not with Epic, do consider it. Shameless plug! https://forteresearch.com/ https://forteresearch.com/
  - throwawaysocks 10y ago
    6 months?! My experience was closer to 4, 5 in good years and 3 in bad. But summers were idyllic.

bduerst 10y ago

Again I definitely don't recommend it for engineers. They'll get locked in on their tech stack since that's their experience and no major tech company uses it anymore. For entry-level business roles they tend to be better suited, especially those looking to go the consulting route.