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OK, so many of you will know, or be able to work out, how this will work, but I've used exactly this trick to freak out so many people. Join in, tell others, h

OK, so many of you will know, or be able to work out, how this will work, but I've used exactly this trick to freak out so many people. Join in, tell others, help to raise the profile of math and science. Please. ADDED IN EDIT: Please up-vote this submission to get it to the front page. If you don't want me to get karma, feel free to down-vote this comment as a scapegoat. If it bottoms out I'll add another scapegoat. Thanks.

jacquesm 17y ago
Interesting trick with the scapegoat system, but I think it fixes something that doesn't need fixing. I can't imagine people that would even bother about you not getting your karma but to upvote the story anyway. That would mean you think there are people that would withhold their vote simply because it is you that does the posting. I can't believe it's come to that.
- RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
  People might resent being asked for an up-vote. I suspect that many people would read something, then move on, not especially interested. They might consider up-voting having been asked, but then feel that the person asking is just doing so for the karma. I want to make it clear that I'm asking to get the item noticed, because I think the item has value, and not because I want the karma. There are items where I've used this idea and simply been down-voted without getting many up-votes at all. That's fine, I really, to some extent, don't care about the karma. But occasionally I care about the item, and I want to encourage people to up-vote without them resenting being asked. I hope that's clear - thanks for giving me the opportunity to expand on my intentions.
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Just posting a link is asking for an upvote :)
    - RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
      I can see your point of view, and no doubt many agree with it, but not to me. To me, posting a link is offering something that people might think is interesting.
      - deleted 17y ago
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        jacquesm 17y ago
        What on earth has twitter got to do with it ? I think you're confusing RoG with the article author.
        RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
        So you conclude that I am James Grime? If so, you are wrong. There are several people here on HN who have done some homework and found out who I really am. I am not connected with PiDayMagic, and I am not touting for twitter followers. Feel free to flag, down-vote, or whatever, that's your prerogative, but your accusation is mis-placed. Feel free to email me to make your accusations clearer if I've misread what you're saying.
      - RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
        To put the later comments into context ... The deleted comment was someone saying that "Everyone knows" that this is a flagrant attempt to get twitter followers, that it's spam, and they'd flagged it. Having down-voted and flagged, they then discover that they were wrong, and instead of apologising and retracting the comment, they simply deleted it, leaving, of course, the down-votes.

jacquesm 17y ago

Interesting trick with the scapegoat system, but I think it fixes something that doesn't need fixing. I can't imagine people that would even bother about you not getting your karma but to upvote the story anyway. That would mean you think there are people that would withhold their vote simply because it is you that does the posting. I can't believe it's come to that.

RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
People might resent being asked for an up-vote. I suspect that many people would read something, then move on, not especially interested. They might consider up-voting having been asked, but then feel that the person asking is just doing so for the karma. I want to make it clear that I'm asking to get the item noticed, because I think the item has value, and not because I want the karma. There are items where I've used this idea and simply been down-voted without getting many up-votes at all. That's fine, I really, to some extent, don't care about the karma. But occasionally I care about the item, and I want to encourage people to up-vote without them resenting being asked. I hope that's clear - thanks for giving me the opportunity to expand on my intentions.
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Just posting a link is asking for an upvote :)
  - RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
    I can see your point of view, and no doubt many agree with it, but not to me. To me, posting a link is offering something that people might think is interesting.
    - deleted 17y ago
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      - jacquesm 17y ago
        What on earth has twitter got to do with it ? I think you're confusing RoG with the article author.
      - RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
        So you conclude that I am James Grime? If so, you are wrong. There are several people here on HN who have done some homework and found out who I really am. I am not connected with PiDayMagic, and I am not touting for twitter followers. Feel free to flag, down-vote, or whatever, that's your prerogative, but your accusation is mis-placed. Feel free to email me to make your accusations clearer if I've misread what you're saying.
    - RiderOfGiraffes 17y ago
      To put the later comments into context ... The deleted comment was someone saying that "Everyone knows" that this is a flagrant attempt to get twitter followers, that it's spam, and they'd flagged it. Having down-voted and flagged, they then discover that they were wrong, and instead of apologising and retracting the comment, they simply deleted it, leaving, of course, the down-votes.