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How is D is on the list? And how is Objective C less popular than Lisp? I'd be curious to see where this list comes from...

by Auzy 17y ago

keefe 17y ago
lisp users generate more popularity units per capita than objective c users, because they are true believers rather than seeking dollars...
SandB0x 17y ago
Yeah I doubt it's in any way accurate. You can get a very rough guide (albeit skewed towards .net) from http://stackoverflow.com/tags http://stackoverflow.com/tags.
- davidw 17y ago
  It apparently uses my stats at http://LangPop.com http://LangPop.com . While the numbers are rough, and there are some (stated) biases, I think they do a pretty good job of reflecting reality, and in any case, you get everything broken down with a normalized chart, so you can play around with the weights of different things. As to why anything is on that list: because I put it there. In some cases, after being asked to. (BTW, I know the IRC numbers for the most recent version are a bit off - I'm currently working on that).
  - SandB0x 17y ago
    Ah, fair enough. I didn't spot the source. If you were omnipotent and could get at all the information directly, what would you consider to be a true measure of popularity? (Eg, number of people who know each language, total time spent writing in each language over the last week)
    - davidw 17y ago
      That's a good question! I think that even in that case, the best answer would be to break things out so that people could see the different categories. The amount of code in production (this is something where langpop.com likely falls short: I can't think of any way of getting data on all the COBOL out there without paying through the nose for it) certainly counts for something in terms of popularity, but so does the language most people know some of. So does what's hot these days and being used for new systems being written. I think, though, that ultimately it doesn't really matter once you get past a certain threshold and see that people are writing libraries for the language.
nostrademons 17y ago
D was easy though - I went to type "Delphi" and "D" popped up. Cool, got one for free.

How is D is on the list? And how is Objective C less popular than Lisp? I'd be curious to see where this list comes from...

by Auzy 17y ago

How is D is on the list? And how is Objective C less popular than Lisp? I'd be curious to see where this list comes from...

keefe 17y ago

lisp users generate more popularity units per capita than objective c users, because they are true believers rather than seeking dollars...

SandB0x 17y ago

Yeah I doubt it's in any way accurate. You can get a very rough guide (albeit skewed towards .net) from http://stackoverflow.com/tags http://stackoverflow.com/tags.

davidw 17y ago
It apparently uses my stats at http://LangPop.com http://LangPop.com . While the numbers are rough, and there are some (stated) biases, I think they do a pretty good job of reflecting reality, and in any case, you get everything broken down with a normalized chart, so you can play around with the weights of different things. As to why anything is on that list: because I put it there. In some cases, after being asked to. (BTW, I know the IRC numbers for the most recent version are a bit off - I'm currently working on that).
- SandB0x 17y ago
  Ah, fair enough. I didn't spot the source. If you were omnipotent and could get at all the information directly, what would you consider to be a true measure of popularity? (Eg, number of people who know each language, total time spent writing in each language over the last week)
  - davidw 17y ago
    That's a good question! I think that even in that case, the best answer would be to break things out so that people could see the different categories. The amount of code in production (this is something where langpop.com likely falls short: I can't think of any way of getting data on all the COBOL out there without paying through the nose for it) certainly counts for something in terms of popularity, but so does the language most people know some of. So does what's hot these days and being used for new systems being written. I think, though, that ultimately it doesn't really matter once you get past a certain threshold and see that people are writing libraries for the language.

nostrademons 17y ago

D was easy though - I went to type "Delphi" and "D" popped up. Cool, got one for free.